From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/81260 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Barchi Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: next beta Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:36:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <5148DFF3.3020705@wxs.nl> <3E34E460-013F-49E4-8BED-A09FB79FB4D1@web.de> <514976B1.2050200@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363797445 13780 80.91.229.3 (20 Mar 2013 16:37:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:37:25 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Mar 20 17:37:51 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UIM1P-000239-HZ for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:37:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A27101E3; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:37:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Pg0upcvIkq3Q; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:37:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCA8101EA; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:37:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1416C101EA for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:37:25 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AHbbAxmMG97E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:37:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-utr.mf.surf.net (filter1-utr.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.152]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4DF101E3 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:37:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-ob0-x233.google.com (mail-ob0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::233]) by filter1-utr.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r2KGbEmY032506 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:37:15 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id un3so1845734obb.10 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:37:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=Q3OM16kTomWLgwf5snTaiocwrC5UWWTlMTmG45F1P+I=; b=n3EAqKJ8zXwi/+xXBbop3mNFOs3ppXYbh54WpErchIp49H1bJGZEVHsPE8p0MDq2Nn oxfhMBB3KCMrkT9SUKO6jXb9lzU/imKkWXFtzmfOYq1phthXiJ0SD8x562Vk4h3sK2/l TmxhVk46usFLZWs1EEU2WQY6F3kppeatWeshRQG/jze/8UcSlK/6kVRhaLRDWmGC3B8v KD3kQJCbY8ERzWqsuCgQBrIawDbzIlPuRCqNrHa0ngBRQk4R6Qv9Sooxksw+VbZiyrWk ICadEvJcvi4vA2fboJYrWjQ4V/X5SH6dmefvwGm/hmc40toje/HY2yYD4Nsls/uEoa6m /E5A== X-Received: by 10.60.5.165 with SMTP id t5mr4636934oet.117.1363797434286; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.60.144.226 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:36:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <514976B1.2050200@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::233; country=US X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 07JdQBf6P - f182e5373c57 - 20130320 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:81260 Archived-At: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 3/20/2013 8:14 AM, Keith J. Schultz wrote: >> >> Hi Hans, All, >> >> I find this nomenclature confusing and a little confusing from a design >> standpoint! >> >> 1) Color of the text background should be separate from the rest >> of the cell background >> >> 2) the names should reflect to what they apply >> >> That said we should have: >> CTBGC == Cell text background color >> CTC == Cell text color >> >> CBGC == Cell background color >> or >> CC == Cell color >> >> CBGCR == Cell background color in the space right of text >> CBGCM == Cell background color in space middle of cell( above >> below text) >> CBGCL == Cell background color in the space right of text >> >> True, these are a lot of options/parameters, yet it offers the most >> flexibility and >> a cleaner interface. Furthermore, one can understand the names of the >> parameters. > > > preamble scanning is already quite tricky and there was already CR CM CL so > adding CT was a few lines of extra code > > (i will probably make a key/val based variant some day but that is no fun > either ... 10 lines of setup per table instead of a one line preeamble) > > (and i'm forbidden to fundamentally change an important mechanism like > tabulate right now as for sure it will break some things) Further, the declaration of a tabulate environment already tends to be pretty tight on space, so IMO a little bit of obscurity in these parameters - provided they stay documented - is an acceptable price to pay for keeping the keys to two letters (three would probably be OK too, esp. for less frequently used ones). >> Another, advantage is that one could and at a later point a feature for >> inverting the >> color of the text according cell color and/or text background color. >> >> regards >> Keith. >> >> Am 19.03.2013 um 23:46 schrieb Sietse Brouwer : >> >>>> i.e. we already had CL CM and CR, so CT is new .. should be wikified. I've added this to the wiki. Just to be clear: CT provides an alternate method to colorize the text, instead of using the standard \color[foo]{bar} - right? There is already a section on using the \color command to colorize the text, so I want to make sure I'm adding this correctly as a complementary mechanism, or fix it if I misunderstood. - Jon >>> The wiki [1] describes these \C* commands: >>> >>> \CR color is applied to the background of the text and the remaining >>> space on the right; >>> \CC color is applied to the background of the text only; >>> \CM color is applied to the background of the text and the remaining >>> space on both sides; >>> \CL color is applied to the background of the text and the remaining >>> space on the left. >>> >>> [1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tabulate >>> >>> What does CT do differently than CC? It's not quite clear from the >>> example. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________