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But then chang= ing =E2=80=9CBrillItalic=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9CBrill=E2=80=9D will not get the i= talic math characters (Roman or Greek). So, is there a way to get these italics using \definefallbackfamily or must one use \definefontfallback (as Hraban and I eventually did)? I was using Pagella and Cambria to convince myself that the problem was one in my encoding and not some problem with the Brill font. Best, Alan On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 4:46 AM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote: > > Alan Bowen > 19. Oktober 2017 um 15:05 > Many thanks for this, Wolfgang. That is very helpful. Right now, then, I > have: > > \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Brill] > [protrusion=3Dquality, > expansion=3Dquality, > mode=3Dnode, > force=3Dyes, > ] > \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [rm] [Brill] > [tf=3Dstyle:italic, range=3D{0x03B8}, offset=3D{0x03D1}]%Greek theta > > \definefallbackfamily[mainface][mm][Brill] > [range=3D{0x30-0x39}] %oldstyle numerals, normal > > \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [Brill] [preset=3Dmath:lowercasenor= mal] > \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [BrillItalic] > [preset=3Dmath:lowercaseitalic] > > > The font name for the third argument is *always* Brill and not BrillItali= c > or BrillBold. > > \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [Brill] [preset=3Dmath:uppercasenor= mal] > \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [BrillItalic] > [preset=3Dmath:uppercaseitalic] > > \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [Brill] [preset=3Dmath: > lowercasegreeknormal] > \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [BrillItalic] [preset=3Dmath: > lowercasegreekitalic] > \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [Brill][preset=3Dmath: > uppercasegreeknormal] > \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [BrillItalic] [preset=3Dmath: > uppercasegreekitalic] > > \definefontfamily[mainface][mm][TeX Gyre Termes Math][scale=3D0.94] > > \setupmathematics[ucgreek=3Dnormal, lcgreek=3Ditalic] > > \setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt] > > > \starttext > > normal: 1234567890\quad math: \m{1234567890} > > normal: ABCDEFabcdef\quad italic: \emph{ABCDEFabcdef}\quad math: \m{\red > ABCDEFabcdef} > > normal: =CE=91=CE=92=CE=93=CE=94=CE=95=CE=98=CE=B1=CE=B2=CE=B3=CE=B4=CE= =B5=CE=B8\quad slanted: \emph{=CE=91=CE=92=CE=93=CE=94=CE=95=CE=98=CE=B1=CE= =B2=CE=B3=CE=B4=CE=B5=CE=B8}\quad math: \m{\red > =CE=91=CE=92=CE=93=CE=94=CE=95=CE=98=CE=B1=CE=B2=CE=B3=CE=B4=CE=B5=CE=B8} > > Greek theta: \emph{=CE=B8} > > \stoptext > > As you can see, all I need is to get the Brill lowercase Greek in mathmod= e > and the proper slanted Greek theta. > > > \starttext > \m{\theta \vartheta} > \stoptext > > I have tried this with Pagella and Cambria instead of the Brill font and > the problem persists. So I must be doing something wrong. But what? > > Pagella and Cambria have a proper math font, why would you use fallbacks > for them. > > Wolfgang > > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/ > listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________________ > --94eb2c18ee3e3c986d055caf8659 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK=E2=80=94that makes sense, since Brill is the family nam= e. But then changing =E2=80=9CBrillItalic=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9CBrill=E2=80= =9D will not get the italic math characters (Roman or Greek). So, is there = a way to get these italics using \definefallbackfamily or must one use \def= inefontfallback (as Hraban and I eventually did)?

I was usin= g Pagella and Cambria to convince myself that the problem was one in my enc= oding and not some problem with the Brill font.

Best, Alan=

On Sa= t, Oct 28, 2017 at 4:46 AM, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang= @gmail.com> wrote:

19.=20 Oktober 2017 um 15:05
Man= y thanks for this, Wolfgang. That is very=20 helpful. Right now, then, I have:

\= definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Brill]
[protrusio= n=3Dquality,
expansion=3Dquality,=C2=A0
<= div class=3D"gmail_default"> = mode=3Dnode,
force=3Dyes,
<= /span>]
\definefallbackfamily [mainface] [rm] [Brill]=C2=A0
[tf=3Dstyle:italic, range= =3D{0x03B8}, offset=3D{0x03D1}]%Greek theta

<= font face=3D"georgia, serif">\definefallbackfamily[mainface][mm][Brill= ]
[range=3D{0x30-0x39}] %oldstyle numerals, normal

\definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [Brill]=20 [preset=3Dmath:lowercasenormal]
\definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm]=20 [BrillItalic] [preset=3Dmath:lowercaseitalic]

The font name for the third argument is *always* Brill and not BrillItalic or Bri= llBold.
\definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [Brill]=20 [preset=3Dmath:uppercasenormal]
\definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm]=20 [BrillItalic] [preset=3Dmath:uppercaseitalic]

\definefallbackfamily=20 [mainface] [mm] [Brill] [preset=3Dmath:lowercasegreeknormal]
\definefallba= ckfamily [mainface] [mm] [BrillItalic] [preset=3Dmath:lowercasegreekitalic]
\defin= efallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [Brill][preset=3Dmath:uppercasegreeknormal]
\definefallba= ckfamily [mainface] [mm] [BrillItalic] [preset=3Dmath:uppercasegreekitalic]

\definefontfamily[mainface][mm][TeX Gyre Termes Math][scale=3D0.94]
<= font face=3D"georgia, serif">
= \setupmathematics[ucgreek=3Dnormal, lcgr= eek=3Ditalic]

\setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]


\starttext

normal:=20 1234567890\quad math: \m{1234567890}

normal:=20 ABCDEFabcdef\quad italic: \emph{ABCDEFabcdef}\quad math: \m{\red=20 ABCDEFabcdef}

normal: =CE=91=CE=92=CE=93=CE=94=CE=95=CE=98=CE=B1=CE=B2=CE=B3= =CE=B4=CE=B5=CE=B8\quad slanted:=20 \emph{=CE=91=CE=92=CE=93=CE=94=CE=95=CE=98=CE=B1=CE=B2=CE=B3=CE=B4=CE=B5=CE= =B8}\quad math: \m{\red =CE=91=CE=92=CE=93=CE=94=CE=95=CE=98=CE=B1=CE=B2=CE= =B3=CE=B4=CE=B5=CE=B8}

Greek theta: \emph{=CE=B8}

\stoptext

As you can=20 see, all I need is to get the Brill lowercase Greek in mathmode and the=20 proper slanted Greek theta.

 \starttext
\m{\theta \vartheta}
\stoptext

I=20 have tried this with Pagella and Cambria instead of the Brill font and=20 the problem persists. So I must be doing something wrong. But what?

 Pagella and Cambria have a proper math font, why would you use fallbacks for them.

Wolfgang

_____________________________________________________________= ______________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki!

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