From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/83509 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Bowen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: vertical bar spacing in Antykwa-Poltawskiego Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:42:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <51EE6D0C.607@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0990348703==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374586975 4053 80.91.229.3 (23 Jul 2013 13:42:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:42:55 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Jul 23 15:42:58 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V1crh-0008KC-RZ for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:42:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA04101E9; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:42:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id CipgHUkiM0Vr; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:42:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B38A101E6; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:42:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12608101E6 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:42:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id NtDYhxK3Gzbh for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:42:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F54D101E3 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:42:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-vb0-x236.google.com (mail-vb0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c02::236]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r6NDgEKs018558 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:42:14 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q12so5472666vbe.41 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:42:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VJIJYzbZOQggn941xBaU0M/YhPhmrZtsjLfS4cW0Bq4=; b=nv9TPbCUSJ6as9mMIKDAIEuJItdLvLCHitBrwGfSbPVze7xQ0T/UFuZFr0t2IfjY/5 2wKFM4bF2+CiKu4z6mM2XFFA7Pz08XE5zj/+BHxX2uLb91/ygdll9joTYdc9+NMAXkWp RyPUFWyu5sRXpXgltCGRKhIIeAgIYPu5pq5azrGh3YDQF2fEht4XM9/tkv0zBTvBv6TH 8+DUglEtrDwd6TFFoP3wDKBFg1AzGyGhdkYDsd4Ffx3V6bhPvhaAvW+MiPTxsXBvI7g3 7mQmXhXAco84EnyorqswUNpq0Sy4DpW9nphcOe6fI0hJ7C7WXUFKaPAS80lT8Ie6ZzV2 gCzA== X-Received: by 10.52.33.202 with SMTP id t10mr9635244vdi.16.1374586933703; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.220.217.12 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:42:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51EE6D0C.607@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c02::236; country=US X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03K3NGepS - 5a030325b060 - 20130723 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:83509 Archived-At: --===============0990348703== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3079bc30e5818c04e22df510 --20cf3079bc30e5818c04e22df510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wolfgang, Hans=97many thanks to you both! Part of the problem was that i was using \| instead of \textbar. I now have= : \setupbodyfont[antykwa-poltawskiego] \def\test {\ifnum\lastnodetype=3D\gluenodecode \| \else \textbar \fi} \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] \starttext left\test middle \test right \stoptext which looks good on the page=97\quad\textbar\quad puts too much space aroun= d the bar. Again, thanks! Alan On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7/23/2013 1:32 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > >> >> Am 23.07.2013 um 13:20 schrieb Alan Bowen : >> >> I am using Antykwa-Poltawskiego to set a French text that includes >>> ancient Greek. >>> >>> In the Greek text, there is a vertical bar (to mark the end of a >>> column). The custom is to set the spacing about the bar so that >>> (a) when the bar is inside a word, the bar appears as a normal characte= r >>> (b) when the bar is between words, the bar has an emspace on either sid= e. >>> >> >> \setupbodyfont[antykwa-**poltawskiego] >> >> \def\test >> {\ifnum\lastnodetype=3D11 >> > > \ifnum\lastnodetype=3D\**gluenodecode > > > \quad\textbar\quad >> \else >> \textbar >> \fi} >> >> \setcharacterspacing[**frenchpunctuation] >> >> \starttext >> left\test middle \test right >> \stoptext >> >> The problem is that Antykwa-Poltawskiego defines the vertical bar with >>> spaces on either side. >>> >> >> Do you have a example for this? >> >> Is there a way to adjust this so that the vertical bar appears as it >>> should in Greek text=97and to do this without clobbering the French >>> punctuation or getting weird effects when the bar is at the end of a li= ne? >>> For instance, is there a way to combine rules for character spacing so = that >>> the second overrules the first only when they are in conflict? >>> >> >> Make a example for the problem with french. >> >> Wolfgang >> >> ______________________________**______________________________** >> _______________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry t= o >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/** >> listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/**projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ______________________________**______________________________** >> _______________________ >> >> > > -- > > ------------------------------**------------------------------**----- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ------------------------------**------------------------------**----- > > ______________________________**______________________________** > _______________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/** > listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/**projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ______________________________**______________________________** > _______________________ > --20cf3079bc30e5818c04e22df510 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wolfgang, Hans=97many thanks to you both!

Part of the problem was that i was using \| instead of \textbar. I now h= ave:

\setupbodyfont[antykwa-poltawskiego]

\def\test
=A0 {\ifnum\lastnodetype=3D\gluenod= ecode
\|
=A0 =A0\else
=A0 =A0 =A0\textbar
=A0 =A0\fi}

\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]

\star= ttext
left\test middle \test right

\stop= text

which looks good on the page=97\q= uad\textbar\quad puts too much space around the bar.

Again, thanks!

Alan



On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at= 7:46 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
On 7/23/2013 1:32 PM, Wolf= gang Schuster wrote:

Am 23.07.2013 um 13:20 schrieb Alan Bowen <bowenalan03@gmail.com>:

I am using Antykwa-Poltawskiego to set a French text that includes ancient = Greek.

In the Greek text, there is a vertical bar (to mark the end of a column). T= he custom is to set the spacing about the bar so that
(a) when the bar is inside a word, the bar appears as a normal character (b) when the bar is between words, the bar has an emspace on either side.

\setupbodyfont[antykwa-poltawskiego]

\def\test
=A0 =A0{\ifnum\lastnodetype=3D11

\ifnum\lastnodetype=3D\gluenodecode


=A0 =A0 =A0 \quad\textbar\quad
=A0 =A0 \else
=A0 =A0 =A0 \textbar
=A0 =A0 \fi}

\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]

\starttext
left\test middle \test right
\stoptext

The problem is that Antykwa-Poltawskiego defines the vertical bar with spac= es on either side.

Do you have a example for this?

Is there a way to adjust this so that the vertical bar appears as it should= in Greek text=97and to do this without clobbering the French punctuation o= r getting weird effects when the bar is at the end of a line? For instance,= is there a way to combine rules for character spacing so that the second o= verrules the first only when they are in conflict?

Make a example for the problem with french.

Wolfgang

_____________________________________________________________= ______________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki!

maillist : ntg-cont= ext@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage =A0: http://= www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive =A0: http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki =A0 =A0 : http:= //contextgarden.net
_____________________________________________________________= ______________________



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