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There is a fix, as Otared and Glen have indicated. go to Apple menu -> Preferences -> Security & Privacy on the Security & Privacy, login, choose the tab General there choose, towards the bottom of that pane, under =C2=AB Allow apps downloaded from: =C2=BB choose the radio button App Store and identified developers click the button =C2=ABallow anyway=C2=BB The macOS still chokes when you first try to update lmtx , but this time it presents the option =C2=ABOpen=C2=BB. Select that and you are good to go. So, thanks, guys. And Mojca, yes, it is very confusing. Still, that seems to be all that one has to do make the download. So perhaps there is no need for changes at your end. Cheers, Alan On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 11:30 AM Keith McKay wrote= : > This is the standard way to install "apps" on a mac, which have an unknow= n > developer, to Apple anyway. It is a bit annoying when it happens especial= ly > when one has forgotten that you have to go through the Preferences dialog > to get it to run. In my case it's an age thing.[image: =F0=9F=99=81] > > Best Wishes > > Keith McKay > On 16/11/2019 22:27, Glen Helman wrote: > > There seems to be a way around this built into Catalina, however awkward > it may be. > > I tried to install lmtx on a computer running Catalina that didn=E2=80=99= t have an > installation and received a similar error. (There seems to be a quarantin= e > applying to the text of the script and not merely the file because I trie= d > creating a new document with the same text and received the same response= , > and that response referred to the download of the original file.) > > I did find that the =E2=80=9Cgeneral=E2=80=9D tab under =E2=80=9Csecurity= & privacy=E2=80=9D in the system > preferences had, in addition to the usual two choices, a reference to the > downloaded script with a button reading =E2=80=9Callow anyway=E2=80=9D (o= r something to > that effect). When I tried to run the script again after clicking that > button, the =E2=80=9Cdeveloper cannot be verified=E2=80=9D dialogue incl= uded =E2=80=9Copen=E2=80=9D as a > choice; and, when I clicked that, the script ran successfully and the > installation was usable. > > I then tried the install script on another computer running Cataline wher= e > I had installed lmtx last spring. I ran into the =E2=80=9Cdeveloper canno= t be > verified=E2=80=9D response again, but the same workaround allowed the scr= ipt to > run, and the installation was updated. > > Glen Helman > > On Nov 15, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: > > Though I was able to download the latest ConTeXt beta without any > problems, my attempt to update my ConText-LMTX installation was blocked. > The error message was > > *=E2=80=9Cmtxrun=E2=80=9D cannot be opened because the developer cannot b= e verified* > macOS cannot verify that this app is free from malware. > Safari downloaded this file on April 29, 2019. > > I am not sure why this is happening and wonder if it would OK to copy > mxtrun from my ConTeXt installation and replace the version in my > ConTeXt-LMTX installation with it. > > Alan > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > > > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to= the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-co= ntext > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > --000000000000a39ca00597a5956d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This seems to be a problem pe= culiar to Catalina (macOS 10.15.1). There is a fix, as Otared and Glen have= indicated.

go to Apple menu -> Preferences -> Se= curity & Privacy
on the Security & Pri= vacy, login, choose the tab General
there choo= se, towards the bottom of that pane, under =C2=AB Allow apps downloaded fro= m: =C2=BB=C2=A0
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0choose= the radio button App Store and identified developers
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0click the button =C2=ABallow anyway=C2=BB=

The macOS still chokes whe= n you first try to update lmtx , but this time it presents the option =C2= =ABOpen=C2=BB. Select that and you are good to go.

So, thanks, guys.

And Mojca, yes, it is very confusing. Still, that seems to b= e all that one has to do make the download. So perhaps there is no need for= changes=C2=A0at your end.

= Cheers, Alan
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 11:30 AM Keith McKay <mckaymeister@gmail.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20

This is the standard way to install "apps" on a mac, which= have an unknown developer, to Apple anyway. It is a bit annoying when it happens especially when one has forgotten that you have to go through the Preferences dialog to get it to run. In my case it's an age thing.3D"=F0=9F=99=81"

Best Wishes

Keith McKay=C2=A0

On 16/11/2019 22:27, Glen Helman wrote:
=20 There seems to be a way around this built into Catalina, however awkward it may be.

I tried to install lmtx on a computer running Catalina that didn=E2=80=99t have an installation and received a si= milar error. (There seems to be a quarantine applying to the text of the script and not merely the file because I tried creating a new document with the same text and received the same response, and that response referred to the download of the original file.)

I did find that the =E2=80=9Cgeneral=E2=80=9D tab under =E2=80= =9Csecurity & privacy=E2=80=9D in the system preferences had, in addition t= o the usual two choices, a reference to the downloaded script with a button reading =E2=80=9Callow anyway=E2=80=9D (or something to that= effect). When I tried to run the script again after clicking that button, the =E2=80=9Cdeveloper cannot =C2=A0be verified=E2=80=9D dialogue i= ncluded =E2=80=9Copen=E2=80=9D as a choice; and, when I clicked that, the script ran successfully and the installation was usable.

I then tried the install script on another computer running Cataline where I had installed lmtx last spring. I ran into the =E2=80=9Cdeveloper cannot be verified=E2=80=9D response ag= ain, but the same workaround allowed the script to run, and the installation was updated.

Glen Helman

On Nov 15, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Alan Bowen <bowenalan03@gmail.com> wrote:

Though I was able to download the latest ConTeXt beta without any problems, my attempt to update my ConText-LMTX installation was blocked. The error message was

=E2=80=9Cmtxrun=E2=80=9D cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified
macOS cannot verify that this app is free from malware.
Safari downloaded this file on April 29, 2019.

=C2=A0I am not sure why this is happening and wonder if it would OK to copy mxtrun from my ConTeXt installation and replace the version in my ConTeXt-LMTX installation with it.

Alan
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