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* unwanted space after \in
@ 2017-08-18 19:33 Alan Bowen
  2017-08-18 20:47 ` Pablo Rodriguez
  2017-08-19  2:26 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2017-08-18 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Unlike \goto and \at, \in seems to insert an unwanted space before any text
that follows.

MWE—

starttext
Text\reference[abc]{}

\page
 Text ,

\in{Text}[abc],

\at{Text, p.}[abc],

\goto{Text}[abc],
\stoptext

Alan

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* Re: unwanted space after \in
  2017-08-18 19:33 unwanted space after \in Alan Bowen
@ 2017-08-18 20:47 ` Pablo Rodriguez
  2017-08-18 21:03   ` Alan Bowen
  2017-08-19  2:26 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2017-08-18 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 08/18/2017 09:33 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
> Unlike \goto and \at, \in seems to insert an unwanted space before any
> text that follows.

Alan,

I’m not sure I get what is the issue:

    \starttext
    \chapter[abc]{Chapter}

    \reference[bca]{}

    \page
    \in{in reference}[abc],

    \in{in reference}[bca],

    \at{at reference, p.}[abc],

    \goto{goto reference}[abc],

    \stoptext

\in behaves as \at in terms of blank spaces in the first case.

I guess that the problem there is that there is no reference to solve in
the second case.

But I may be missing your point.

Pablo
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* Re: unwanted space after \in
  2017-08-18 20:47 ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2017-08-18 21:03   ` Alan Bowen
  2017-08-19  2:21     ` Sebastian L.
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2017-08-18 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi, Pablo—I should have been clearer. The issue is the space that \in
inserts before the final comma. At that’s what I get using the latest
standalone beta. (Do you see it?)

Alan

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:

> On 08/18/2017 09:33 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
> > Unlike \goto and \at, \in seems to insert an unwanted space before any
> > text that follows.
>
> Alan,
>
> I’m not sure I get what is the issue:
>
>     \starttext
>     \chapter[abc]{Chapter}
>
>     \reference[bca]{}
>
>     \page
>     \in{in reference}[abc],
>
>     \in{in reference}[bca],
>
>     \at{at reference, p.}[abc],
>
>     \goto{goto reference}[abc],
>
>     \stoptext
>
> \in behaves as \at in terms of blank spaces in the first case.
>
> I guess that the problem there is that there is no reference to solve in
> the second case.
>
> But I may be missing your point.
>
> Pablo
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* Re: unwanted space after \in
  2017-08-18 21:03   ` Alan Bowen
@ 2017-08-19  2:21     ` Sebastian L.
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From: Sebastian L. @ 2017-08-19  2:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Confirmed, see attached JPG.

Cheers, Sebastian


On 8/18/2017 11:03 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
> Hi, Pablo—I should have been clearer. The issue is the space that \in 
> inserts before the final comma. At that’s what I get using the latest 
> standalone beta. (Do you see it?)
>
> Alan
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es 
> <mailto:oinos@gmx.es>> wrote:
>
>     On 08/18/2017 09:33 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>     > Unlike \goto and \at, \in seems to insert an unwanted space
>     before any
>     > text that follows.
>
>     Alan,
>
>     I’m not sure I get what is the issue:
>
>         \starttext
>         \chapter[abc]{Chapter}
>
>         \reference[bca]{}
>
>         \page
>         \in{in reference}[abc],
>
>         \in{in reference}[bca],
>
>         \at{at reference, p.}[abc],
>
>         \goto{goto reference}[abc],
>
>         \stoptext
>
>     \in behaves as \at in terms of blank spaces in the first case.
>
>     I guess that the problem there is that there is no reference to
>     solve in
>     the second case.
>
>     But I may be missing your point.
>
>     Pablo
>     --
>     http://www.ousia.tk
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>
>
>
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* Re: unwanted space after \in
  2017-08-18 19:33 unwanted space after \in Alan Bowen
  2017-08-18 20:47 ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2017-08-19  2:26 ` Aditya Mahajan
  2017-08-19 11:36   ` Alan Bowen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2017-08-19  2:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017, Alan Bowen wrote:

> Unlike \goto and \at, \in seems to insert an unwanted space before any text
> that follows.
>
> MWE—
>
> starttext
> Text\reference[abc]{}
>
> \page
> Text ,
>
> \in{Text}[abc],
>
> \at{Text, p.}[abc],
>
> \goto{Text}[abc],
> \stoptext

I am not sure if I consider this a bug. In a typical use case, \reference 
will have a value, e.g., \reference[abc]{whatever}. In that case, if you 
use \in{Text}[abc], there should be a non-breakable space between "Text" 
and "whatever". You appear to be abusing the reference system by giving an 
empty reference.

I think that usin \goto is better in this case rather than adding a check 
to \in for an atypical use case.

Aditya

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* Re: unwanted space after \in
  2017-08-19  2:26 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2017-08-19 11:36   ` Alan Bowen
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2017-08-19 11:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thanks, Aditya. Using \goto works better.

I have been abusing \reference for some time now, mainly to mark the end of
a file in order to generate page numbers: E.g., \reference[EOF]{} just
before \stoptext or \stopcomponent with \at[EOF]. This has worked for
getting the page range of a chapter or paper. Is there a better way to do
this?

Alan

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
> Unlike \goto and \at, \in seems to insert an unwanted space before any text
>> that follows.
>>
>> MWE—
>>
>> starttext
>> Text\reference[abc]{}
>>
>> \page
>> Text ,
>>
>> \in{Text}[abc],
>>
>> \at{Text, p.}[abc],
>>
>> \goto{Text}[abc],
>> \stoptext
>>
>
> I am not sure if I consider this a bug. In a typical use case, \reference
> will have a value, e.g., \reference[abc]{whatever}. In that case, if you
> use \in{Text}[abc], there should be a non-breakable space between "Text"
> and "whatever". You appear to be abusing the reference system by giving an
> empty reference.
>
> I think that usin \goto is better in this case rather than adding a check
> to \in for an atypical use case.
>
> Aditya
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