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* \setcharacterspacing
@ 2021-05-17 18:38 Alan Bowen
  2021-05-17 18:43 ` \setcharacterspacing Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2021-05-17 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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With
\definecharacterspacing [test]
\setupcharacterspacing [test] ["00AB] [right=.1, alternative=1]
\setupcharacterspacing [test] ["00BB] [left=.1, alternative=1]

\startsetups[test]
\setcharacterspacing[test]
\stopsetups

\starttext
«anyword»
\stoptext
there is no additional space after and before the guillemets.

I am using lmtx  in the ConTeXt  ver: 2021.04.29 23:09 standalone

Alan

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* Re: \setcharacterspacing
  2021-05-17 18:38 \setcharacterspacing Alan Bowen
@ 2021-05-17 18:43 ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2021-05-17 18:57   ` \setcharacterspacing Alan Bowen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2021-05-17 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Alan Bowen schrieb am 17.05.2021 um 20:38:
> With
> \definecharacterspacing [test]
> \setupcharacterspacing [test] ["00AB] [right=.1, alternative=1]
> \setupcharacterspacing [test] ["00BB] [left=.1, alternative=1]
> 
> \startsetups[test]
> \setcharacterspacing[test]
> \stopsetups
> 
> \starttext
> «anyword»
> \stoptext
> there is no additional space after and before the guillemets.

\starttext
\setup[test]
«anyword»
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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* Re: \setcharacterspacing
  2021-05-17 18:43 ` \setcharacterspacing Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2021-05-17 18:57   ` Alan Bowen
  2021-05-17 19:10     ` \setcharacterspacing Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2021-05-17 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfgang—Thank you. That works very nicely!

Alan

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 2:44 PM Wolfgang Schuster <
wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan Bowen schrieb am 17.05.2021 um 20:38:
> > With
> > \definecharacterspacing [test]
> > \setupcharacterspacing [test] ["00AB] [right=.1, alternative=1]
> > \setupcharacterspacing [test] ["00BB] [left=.1, alternative=1]
> >
> > \startsetups[test]
> > \setcharacterspacing[test]
> > \stopsetups
> >
> > \starttext
> > «anyword»
> > \stoptext
> > there is no additional space after and before the guillemets.
>
> \starttext
> \setup[test]
> «anyword»
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
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* Re: \setcharacterspacing
  2021-05-17 18:57   ` \setcharacterspacing Alan Bowen
@ 2021-05-17 19:10     ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2021-05-17 19:50       ` \setcharacterspacing Alan Bowen
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Alan Bowen schrieb am 17.05.2021 um 20:57:
> Wolfgang—Thank you. That works very nicely!

You can also remove the \startsetups and \stopsetups commands to enable 
the spacing.

When you want the spacing only for certain languages you can use 
\setuplanguage to load the setups-block for them:

\setuplanguage
   [fr]
   [setups=test]

\starttext

«anyword»

{\fr «anyword»}

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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* Re: \setcharacterspacing
  2021-05-17 19:10     ` \setcharacterspacing Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2021-05-17 19:50       ` Alan Bowen
  2021-05-17 19:59         ` \setcharacterspacing Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2021-05-17 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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That is very good to know and it works in simple cases. But I am finding
that in a product/component structure, I get the proper spacing only when
• the environment file has the \startsetups...\stopsetups
• either \setup[test] or \setuplanguage[fr][setups=test] is in the
component file.

Is this expected behavior?

(Before I just \setcharacterspacing[test] in the env file but now it only
works when in the component file)

Alan

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 3:11 PM Wolfgang Schuster <
wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan Bowen schrieb am 17.05.2021 um 20:57:
> > Wolfgang—Thank you. That works very nicely!
>
> You can also remove the \startsetups and \stopsetups commands to enable
> the spacing.
>
> When you want the spacing only for certain languages you can use
> \setuplanguage to load the setups-block for them:
>
> \setuplanguage
>    [fr]
>    [setups=test]
>
> \starttext
>
> «anyword»
>
> {\fr «anyword»}
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
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* Re: \setcharacterspacing
  2021-05-17 19:50       ` \setcharacterspacing Alan Bowen
@ 2021-05-17 19:59         ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2021-05-18 13:13           ` \setcharacterspacing Alan Bowen
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Alan Bowen schrieb am 17.05.2021 um 21:50:
> That is very good to know and it works in simple cases. But I am 
> finding that in a product/component structure, I get the 
> proper spacing only when
> • the environment file has the \startsetups...\stopsetups
> • either \setup[test] or \setuplanguage[fr][setups=test] is in the 
> component file.
>
> Is this expected behavior?
>
> (Before I just \setcharacterspacing[test] in the env file but now it 
> only works when in the component file)

Can you make a simple example, it's possible there is a reset somewhere 
which disables the feature at the end of the environment or the start of 
the component file.

Wolfgang


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* Re: \setcharacterspacing
  2021-05-17 19:59         ` \setcharacterspacing Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2021-05-18 13:13           ` Alan Bowen
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Hi, Wolgang—

The mwe files in a product/component structure are attached.

Everything works as desired with the current env file.

If one comments out the startsetups...\stopsetups, the guillemets are not
properly spaced in the body text, while those in the footnote are fine.

If one comments out the \setup line, the guillemets are not properly placed
anywhere.

Please let me know if this is expected behavior— and I will try
troubleshooting my own files to see why my env file has to have the
\startsetups...\stopsetups line and the component file, the \setup line if
I am to get what I need.

Alan

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:00 PM Wolfgang Schuster <
wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan Bowen schrieb am 17.05.2021 um 21:50:
>
> That is very good to know and it works in simple cases. But I am finding
> that in a product/component structure, I get the proper spacing only when
> • the environment file has the \startsetups...\stopsetups
> • either \setup[test] or \setuplanguage[fr][setups=test] is in the
> component file.
>
> Is this expected behavior?
>
> (Before I just \setcharacterspacing[test] in the env file but now it only
> works when in the component file)
>
>
> Can you make a simple example, it's possible there is a reset somewhere
> which disables the feature at the end of the environment or the start of
> the component file.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
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