From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/76620 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Bowen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: space between footnotes Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:26:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4FC91D58.1080309@web.de> <20120602072708.GA22936@phlegethon> <4FCA1446.6060406@web.de> <20120602134206.GB22936@phlegethon> <4FCA2094.2060908@web.de> <4FCA9F1B.7080602@web.de> <4A949251-2701-4648-8337-FC878607AB9D@googlemail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0808685949==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1338729994 3496 80.91.229.3 (3 Jun 2012 13:26:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:26:34 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Jun 03 15:26:32 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SbAp8-00062g-5J for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:26:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34163101E4; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:26:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id eDrGlcrZPtp9; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:26:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA00101DF; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:26:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BEF101DF for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:26:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1hcrQE1QKmTb for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:26:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter2-nij.mf.surf.net (filter2-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.153]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9468F101DD for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:26:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-qa0-f50.google.com (mail-qa0-f50.google.com [209.85.216.50]) by filter2-nij.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id q53DQA0K026329 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 15:26:10 +0200 Original-Received: by qafl39 with SMTP id l39so1458061qaf.2 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 06:26:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AS7M2EKzv92Myw81ghnZnTriTOMJ1H3WyNk1HmBH16Y=; b=LZq5VEUH/4fZuCqTQolGDUXIktHtpVuUITroouMNeXfEjYZd0jCsb4iw5kqePiIS+O wcDy0+bZCUsZdSMo8mBJhgmTAWp8x+1wMmjvtmMP4XUYBuJDPWNFY/f+akiONZXUafxP uvAfsUOEEijojcCCbM9sV9dLWXLstXtbyQC1sOpBuWYumlY9GJEwFS5j+BrFHsqc4ewB v9DklviCPvRahgrrltP09OvrF6iSirE8rFXM5jsqvW2Qdl7+sYp/e2R8iK1MCMf1eDlS hcaEGLgbipKapCOmIOFDliTHBu337vG0kO51l7IHwcx8Yogy56or85lvFPNagKGCGBSq J50Q== Original-Received: by 10.224.220.209 with SMTP id hz17mr1338734qab.18.1338729969561; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 06:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.14.70 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 06:26:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A949251-2701-4648-8337-FC878607AB9D@googlemail.com> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.216.50; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0aHhNqalb - e390004a759c - 20120603 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.153 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:76620 Archived-At: --===============0808685949== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071d1c6492fab04c1915c6d --20cf3071d1c6492fab04c1915c6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been following this with some interest, since I am having a similar problem with the vertical spacing between notes in MKII. In \setupfootnotes[conversion=3Dnumbers, way=3Dbytext,location=3Dpage,rule=3Don,bodyfont=3D9.6pt, style=3Dnormal,after=3D{\blank[3pt]}] \starttext This is \footnote{abcde.} a test \footnote{ABCDE.} line with \footnote{GHIJK.} footnotes. \footnote{ghijk.} \stoptext I am finding that adjusting =93before=94 and =93after=94 affects the placem= ent of notes on a given page as a block, but leaves the spacing between the notes on the list unchanged. So, is there a way to adjust the vertical spacing * between* notes in MKII? Alan On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Am 03.06.2012 um 01:17 schrieb Pablo Rodr=EDguez: > > >> Add \setupnotation[footnote][display=3Dno] and the example will work. > > > > Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang. > > > > If I didn't get your explanation wrong, this example should work: > > > > \setupnote[footnote][inbetween=3D\blank] > > \setupnotation[footnote][display=3Dno] > > \starttext > > \dorecurse{5}{foot\footnote{note}} > > \stoptext > > > > I'm afraid it doesn't. What is wrong here? > > You foot now =93paragraph=3Dyes=94. > > \setupnote [footnote][paragraph=3Dyes] > \setupnotation[footnote][display=3Dno,alternative=3Dserried] > > \starttext \showframe > \dorecurse{5}{foot\footnote{note} } > \stoptext > > >>>> The alternative you are looking for might be to locally set a > >>>> different parskip for the footnote inserts: > >>> > >>> It adds the space also before or after the first or last one (I guess > >>> this is the way these options should work). > >> > >> It=92s a bug because in the following example even the space between t= he > notes is too big, > >> it should be 5mm but actually it=92s 10mm. > >> > >> \setupnotation[footnote][before=3D{\blank[5mm]},after=3D{\blank[5mm]}] > > > > Are you sure that this is buggy? If each note should have 5mm before an= d > > after it, I think the right space between notes should be 10mm (5mm > > after the previous note plus 5mm before the next note). Maybe I'm being > > too simplistic, but I think it's right. > > No, that=92s wrong. When you have to \blank one after another only the bi= gger > value is used and the other one is ignored. In the following example > the space between the two frames is 2 lines and not 3 lines because > the smaller value is ignored. It=92s possible to add up both value or to > ignore the previous/next value but in this case you need an additional > keyword for \blank. > > \defineframedtext[test][width=3Dbroad,align=3Dmiddle] > > \starttext \showgrid > > \starttest[before=3D{\blank[line]},after=3D{\blank[2*line]}] > One > \stoptest > > \starttest[before=3D{\blank[line]},after=3D{\blank[2*line]}] > One > \stoptest > > \blank[4*line] > > \starttest[before=3D{\blank[2*line]},after=3D{\blank[line]}] > One > \stoptest > > \starttest[before=3D{\blank[2*line]},after=3D{\blank[line]}] > One > \stoptest > > \stoptext > > Wolfgang > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > --20cf3071d1c6492fab04c1915c6d Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been following this with some interest, since I am having a similar = problem with the vertical spacing between notes in MKII.

In

\setupfootnotes[conversion=3Dnumbers,=A0
<= span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"> way=3Dbytex= t,location=3Dpage,rule=3Don,bodyfont=3D9.6pt,
style= =3Dnormal,after=3D{\blank[3pt]}]
\starttext=A0

This is
\footnote{abcde.} a test
\footnote{ABCDE= .} line with
\footnote{GHIJK.} footnotes.
\footnote{ghijk.}
\stoptext

I am finding that adjusting = =93before=94 and =93after=94 affects the placement of notes on a given page= as a block, but leaves the spacing between the notes on the list unchanged= . So, is there a way to adjust the vertical spacing between notes in= MKII?

Alan

On Sun, Jun 3,= 2012 at 4:26 AM, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@goog= lemail.com> wrote:

Am 03.06.2012 um 01:17 schrieb Pablo Rodr=EDguez:

>> Add \setupnotation[footnote][display=3Dno] and the example will wo= rk.
>
> Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.
>
> If I didn't get your explanation wrong, this example should work:<= br> >
> \setupnote[footnote][inbetween=3D\blank]
> \setupnotation[footnote][display=3Dno]
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{5}{foot\footnote{note}}
> \stoptext
>
> I'm afraid it doesn't. What is wrong here?

You foot now =93paragraph=3Dyes=94.

\setupnote =A0 =A0[footnote][paragraph=3Dyes]
\setupnotation[footnote][display=3Dno,alternative=3Dserried]

\starttext \showframe
\dorecurse{5}{foot\footnote{note} }
\stoptext

>>>> The alternative you are looking fo= r might be to locally set a
>>>> different parskip for the footnote inserts:
>>>
>>> It adds the space also before or after the first or last one (= I guess
>>> this is the way these options should work).
>>
>> It=92s a bug because in the following example even the space betwe= en the notes is too big,
>> it should be 5mm but actually it=92s 10mm.
>>
>> \setupnotation[footnote][before=3D{\blank[5mm]},after=3D{\blank[5m= m]}]
>
> Are you sure that this is buggy? If each note should have 5mm before a= nd
> after it, I think the right space between notes should be 10mm (5mm > after the previous note plus 5mm before the next note). Maybe I'm = being
> too simplistic, but I think it's right.

No, that=92s wrong. When you have to \blank one after another only th= e bigger
value is used and the other one is ignored. In the following example
the space between the two frames is 2 lines and not 3 lines because
the smaller value is ignored. It=92s possible to add up both value or to ignore the previous/next value but in this case you need an additional
keyword for \blank.

\defineframedtext[test][width=3Dbroad,align=3Dmiddle]

\starttext \showgrid

\starttest[before=3D{\blank[line]},after=3D{\blank[2*line]}]
One
\stoptest

\starttest[before=3D{\blank[line]},after=3D{\blank[2*line]}]
One
\stoptest

\blank[4*line]

\starttest[before=3D{\blank[2*line]},after=3D{\blank[line]}]
One
\stoptest

\starttest[before=3D{\blank[2*line]},after=3D{\blank[line]}]
One
\stoptest

\stoptext

Wolfgang
_____________________= ______________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / <= a href=3D"http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context" target=3D"_blank"= >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage =A0: http://= www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive =A0: http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki =A0 =A0 : http:= //contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________= ________

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