* Sans Serif Math Font
@ 2013-02-01 20:36 Troy Henderson
2013-02-01 20:42 ` William Adams
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From: Troy Henderson @ 2013-02-01 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Are there any sans serif fonts with matching math (commercial or free) that
work "out of the box" (or at least with very little configuration) with
ConTeXt?
Troy
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* Re: Sans Serif Math Font
2013-02-01 20:36 Sans Serif Math Font Troy Henderson
@ 2013-02-01 20:42 ` William Adams
2013-02-02 1:24 ` Troy Henderson
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From: William Adams @ 2013-02-01 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Feb 1, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Troy Henderson wrote:
> Are there any sans serif fonts with matching math (commercial or free) that work "out of the box" (or at least with very little configuration) with ConTeXt?
My suggestion would be Lucida:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida
and endorsed here:
On Sep 12, 2012, at 3:43 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> best is to upgrade the lucida to opentype .. way less hassle and also more complete
>
> http://www.tug.org/store/lucida/index.html
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* Re: Sans Serif Math Font
2013-02-01 20:42 ` William Adams
@ 2013-02-02 1:24 ` Troy Henderson
2013-02-02 19:07 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Troy Henderson @ 2013-02-02 1:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> My suggestion would be Lucida:
>
I have the Type1 version of Lucida that works fine in ConTeXt, but I don't
really get the sans serif math (to my knowledge). Does the OTF offer
something that the Type1 doesn't?
Troy
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* Re: Sans Serif Math Font
2013-02-02 1:24 ` Troy Henderson
@ 2013-02-02 19:07 ` Mojca Miklavec
2013-02-02 19:16 ` Troy Henderson
2013-02-03 1:44 ` Troy Henderson
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2013-02-02 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Troy Henderson wrote:
>> My suggestion would be Lucida:
>
> I have the Type1 version of Lucida that works fine in ConTeXt, but I don't
> really get the sans serif math (to my knowledge). Does the OTF offer
> something that the Type1 doesn't?
The font (even the Type1 version) definitely contains all sans serif
letters. I should check whether it also contains all math parameters.
I try to use U+1D5C6 (𝗆) for example, it works. If I try to use
U+1D62E (𝘮) then I get a normal "m" for some reason. (Maybe some math
tables aren't complete.)
What I don't know is how to properly switch to sans serif math
"globally"/by default. The command \mathss gives upright instead of
italic letters.
Mojca
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* Re: Sans Serif Math Font
2013-02-02 19:07 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2013-02-02 19:16 ` Troy Henderson
2013-02-03 1:44 ` Troy Henderson
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> What I don't know is how to properly switch to sans serif math
> "globally"/by default. The command \mathss gives upright instead of
> italic letters.
>
If you figure that out, please let me know. That would be great. I am
about to create an online mathematics course where I will be using quite a
few onscreen presentations, and I really should be using sans serif fonts
for this. So, any help you could provide would be outstanding.
Thanks again Mojca,
Troy
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* Re: Sans Serif Math Font
2013-02-02 19:07 ` Mojca Miklavec
2013-02-02 19:16 ` Troy Henderson
@ 2013-02-03 1:44 ` Troy Henderson
2013-02-03 17:40 ` Mojca Miklavec
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> What I don't know is how to properly switch to sans serif math
> "globally"/by default. The command \mathss gives upright instead of
> italic letters.
>
\appendtoks \mathss \to \everymathematics
Troy
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* Re: Sans Serif Math Font
2013-02-03 1:44 ` Troy Henderson
@ 2013-02-03 17:40 ` Mojca Miklavec
2013-02-03 19:00 ` Troy Henderson
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2013-02-03 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Troy Henderson wrote:
>> What I don't know is how to properly switch to sans serif math
>> "globally"/by default. The command \mathss gives upright instead of
>> italic letters.
>
>
> \appendtoks \mathss \to \everymathematics
Except that it gives you upright letters instead of italic ones.
Mojca
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* Re: Sans Serif Math Font
2013-02-03 17:40 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2013-02-03 19:00 ` Troy Henderson
2013-02-04 12:05 ` Troy Henderson
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> Except that it gives you upright letters instead of italic ones.
>
Indeed. If you figure out how to "fix" this, I would really appreciate it.
Troy
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* Re: Sans Serif Math Font
2013-02-03 19:00 ` Troy Henderson
@ 2013-02-04 12:05 ` Troy Henderson
2013-02-04 16:37 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Troy Henderson @ 2013-02-04 12:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Does the OTF version of the Lucida fonts have "correct" math sans serif?
If so, I may likely purchase them.
Troy
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* Re: Sans Serif Math Font
2013-02-04 12:05 ` Troy Henderson
@ 2013-02-04 16:37 ` Hans Hagen
2013-02-04 17:06 ` Troy Henderson
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-02-04 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2/4/2013 1:05 PM, Troy Henderson wrote:
> Does the OTF version of the Lucida fonts have "correct" math sans
> serif? If so, I may likely purchase them.
there is no such thing as sans math ... there are sans alphabets but
then you still can have issues with symbols ... to some extend \ss in
math mode will remap onto sans shapes
if you really want a sans math font hvmath is probably a candidate (as
is informal)
Hans
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2013-02-04 16:37 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-02-04 17:06 ` Troy Henderson
2013-02-04 20:19 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Troy Henderson @ 2013-02-04 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> if you really want a sans math font hvmath is probably a candidate (as is
> informal)
>
Are you talking about this?
http://www.micropress-inc.com/fonts/hvmath/hvmain.htm
If I were to purchase the OTF version of this font, would I be able (fairly
easily) in ConTeXt to typeset my entire document (text and math) using the
sans serif Helvetica font? Is that something that would have to have a
great amount of work done in ConTeXt to setup, or is it "ready to go" since
it's in OTF format?
Troy
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* Re: Sans Serif Math Font
2013-02-04 17:06 ` Troy Henderson
@ 2013-02-04 20:19 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-02-04 20:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2/4/2013 6:06 PM, Troy Henderson wrote:
> if you really want a sans math font hvmath is probably a candidate
> (as is informal)
>
>
> Are you talking about this?
>
> http://www.micropress-inc.com/fonts/hvmath/hvmain.htm
>
> If I were to purchase the OTF version of this font, would I be able
> (fairly easily) in ConTeXt to typeset my entire document (text and math)
> using the sans serif Helvetica font? Is that something that would have
> to have a great amount of work done in ConTeXt to setup, or is it "ready
> to go" since it's in OTF format?
I wonder if it's otf but if the type1 uses standard tex encoding, it
should work as virtual otf .. you then only need to make a file like
tx-math.lfg as vectors are already built-in.
Hans
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