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From: Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:58:15 +0200	[thread overview]
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2011/7/15 Andreas Schneider <aksdb@gmx.de>

> At Friday, 15.07.2011 on 10:17 Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> > Properly that anybody that knows how to write a document in Microsoft
> Office
> > can change the document. So standard software, with a low learning curve.
> I
> > had some problems getting them to accept to use Adobe. And now that turns
> > out to be not a real option. Learning all the time as Benny Hill said.
>
> That's absolutely not true. MS Office Word has a pretty steep learning
> curve, people just neglect that and take it for a slightly more complex
> notepad. It's not, as can be seen be the loads of completely unprofessional
> done documents ... not consistent styles, no auto generated index, no cross
> references, no proper bibliography (where it applies), etc. (Hell, I even
> saw documents where footnotes where done [superscript] and numbered
> manually.)
> That's exactly the problem with Word, Writer, etc., that people think it's
> an easy to use tool, just because it's WYSIWYG. If you don't know what you
> are doing, you WILL do it wrong, even (or especially) with such an "easy"
> tool as Word or Writer.
>

I agree. But that is accepted practice. I find that most times it is more
important to generate something fast and then have to use a lot of time to
get things changed or right, then to setup things correctly (which takes
time) and in the future can change things faster, more efficient en more
consistent.

In a way I am even afraid that the better pleasing document I generated
could be pearls to the swines.



> Also with TeXworks it's already pretty WYSIWYG, imho. Change the code, hit
> "run", and see the result :)
>

Something to look into then.



> > No the problem is not the layout. They are satisfied with that. They just
> do
> > not want to be dependent on our company.
>
> They don't have to. Give them ConTeXt, give them TeXworks, give them the
> source to the documents. Then they can do whatever they want.
>

I'll give it a try.

-- 
Cecil Westerhof

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-15  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-14 14:04 Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-14 14:11 ` luigi scarso
2011-07-14 14:29   ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-14 14:37     ` Hans Hagen
2011-07-14 15:18       ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-14 15:26         ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-14 15:27           ` Martin Schröder
2011-07-14 16:01           ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-14 16:13             ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-07-14 16:47               ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-14 16:13             ` John Haltiwanger
2011-07-14 16:51               ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-14 16:57                 ` John Haltiwanger
2011-07-14 17:17                   ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-14 17:30                     ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-07-14 19:51                       ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-14 22:18                   ` Martin Schröder
2011-07-15  0:15                     ` John Haltiwanger
2011-07-15  6:29                       ` Taco Hoekwater
2011-07-15  8:35                         ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-15  8:44                           ` Hans Hagen
2011-07-15  8:17                       ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-15  8:47                         ` Andreas Schneider
2011-07-15  8:58                           ` Cecil Westerhof [this message]
2011-07-15  9:09                         ` luigi scarso
2011-07-18 18:10                       ` ConTeXt to Markdown (was Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional) Aditya Mahajan
2011-07-19 10:25                         ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-19 10:27                           ` Martin Schröder
2011-07-19 10:41                             ` John Haltiwanger
2011-07-19 10:46                               ` luigi scarso
2011-07-19 10:51                                 ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-19 12:37                                 ` Hans Hagen
2011-07-19 12:45                                   ` luigi scarso
2011-07-19 12:52                                   ` Khaled Hosny
2011-07-14 17:18                 ` Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional Peter Münster
2011-07-14 19:42                   ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-14 14:37     ` luigi scarso
2011-07-14 15:09       ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-14 15:19         ` luigi scarso
2011-07-14 15:20         ` Khaled Hosny

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