From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/70000 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Cecil Westerhof Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:26 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4E1EFF0C.50401@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1702963960==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310663871 15422 80.91.229.12 (14 Jul 2011 17:17:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:17:51 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jul 14 19:17:47 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhPXm-0008Hs-QO for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2908CAE3A; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id h7KxTVO+cfR2; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2549FCAC8D; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB52CAC8D for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id f8V18SwRM1Jy for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-nij.mf.surf.net (filter1-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.152]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFFCCAB80 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f41.google.com (mail-ew0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by filter1-nij.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p6EHHQ1e004480 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:27 +0200 Original-Received: by ewy9 with SMTP id 9so452791ewy.14 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=7Sr19lHgJetWxOygdHhbXhMQqG+fin07ES0sgXdCLG8=; b=HCbp6EZeqBKzK1OGjPOB7U1eHYFBt+1N6P3wN5qrtbeMspolKjP8v/Hv+VOZYXn/o1 yQtEsye+RUW7GrLJ05AJRsiiWCw7yQLOb9ANay3KAENUpYk+ZvNu5lcf/sSJrE3mJiyk a6cK1hb7aeu+nnyCGiS5ruUfv0csSuDfkGrKo= Original-Received: by 10.14.9.27 with SMTP id 27mr883278ees.64.1310663846204; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.22.75 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.215.41; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 07F7Rhqm2 - 0cf6f578fe04 - 20110714 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.152 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:70000 Archived-At: --===============1702963960== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c6e9df9142a04a80ab491 --0016364c6e9df9142a04a80ab491 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2011/7/14 John Haltiwanger > This would be a funciton of typesetting. The table of contents is indexed > to the document as it is typeset, not dynamically throughout its existence. > If you were to delete all the pages except for the table of contents, it > would still refer to all the same pages. > > If this is a necessary part of your workflow, then it sounds like a WYSIWYG > tool like Scribus or InDesign is more appropriate (unfortunately). > >> >> The problem is that my document already is finished. First I could just >> deliver a PDF file. Now they want to edit it themselves. Or can I generate >> from my tex file something that has the meta information and can be edited >> in Scribus? >> >> > Nope. As Mojca mentioned, PDF does not account for this kind of thing. I > mentioned those tools as a basis for constructing an entire document from > scratch. They have automatic page referencing similar to Context, but not in > a post-hoc fashion. > > If they are only copy editing, I think you would be best served by > exporting to xhtml. I generally write all my documents in Markdown and > convert using Pandoc, so I'm not familiar with Context's xhtml capacities. > > If they are doing layout.. Ouch. > I typesetted my document yes. The client has to receive a deliverable this weekend, so my stress hormones will be high the coming days. I have to count my options and select the best. (Or least bad.) Everyone thanks. And next time I want more information when starting writing documentation. -- Cecil Westerhof --0016364c6e9df9142a04a80ab491 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2011/7/14 John Haltiwanger <= ;john.haltiwanger@gmail.com>
This would be a funciton of typesetting. The table of conte= nts is indexed to the document as it is typeset, not dynamically throughout= its existence. If you were to delete all the pages except for the table of= contents, it would still refer to all the same pages.

If this is a necessary part of your workflow, then it sounds like a WYS= IWYG tool like Scribus or InDesign is more appropriate (unfortunately).
=

The problem is that my d= ocument already is finished. First I could just deliver a PDF file. Now the= y want to edit it themselves. Or can I generate from my tex file something = that has the meta information and can be edited in Scribus?


Nope. As Mojca mentioned,= PDF does not account for this kind of thing. I mentioned those tools as a = basis for constructing an entire document from scratch. They have automatic= page referencing similar to Context, but not in a post-hoc fashion.

If they are only copy editing, I think you would be best served by expo= rting to xhtml. I generally write all my documents in Markdown and convert = using Pandoc, so I'm not familiar with Context's xhtml capacities.<= br>
If they are doing layout.. Ouch.

I= typesetted my document yes.=A0 The client has to receive a deliverable thi= s weekend, so my stress hormones will be high the coming days. I have to co= unt my options and select the best. (Or least bad.)

Everyone thanks. And next time I want more information when starting wr= iting documentation.

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Cecil Westerhof
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