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boundary="000000000000662ca205f8a5b996" --000000000000662ca205f8a5b996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 09:02, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 4/6/2023 8:07 AM, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 07:54, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > > > wrote: > > > > Am 05.04.23 um 20:09 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: > > > On 4/5/2023 7:48 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: > > >> Forwarding from Mastodon: > > >> > > >> Adobe, Apryse, Foxit and PDFAssociation have partnered up and > made > > >> ISO32000-2 2020 (aka PDF 2.0), > > >> ISO/TS 32001 (Extensions to Hash Algorithm Support in ISO > > 32000-2) and > > >> ISO/TS 32002 (Extensions to Digital Signatures in ISO 32000-2) > > >> available as sponsored papers ... so **FREE**. > > >> Follow the links below; no valid email (or address) necessary: > > >> https://www.pdfa.org/sponsored-standards/ > > > > > kind of interesting thatthe one from adobe is version 1 and the > > other one 2 > > > > > > i'll wait till it's really free .. currently it still costs EUR > > 0, so > > > one has to fill in some cart / form > > > > You can put in arbitrary data and then download. > > I don=E2=80=99t think it will become any more free. > > > > > > indeed, but then: why don't we put them on the wiki site / another > > free site ? > > > Any legal restrictions ? > > Probably okay as long as one doesn't resell it for EUR 0 ... > > It all looks a bit weird to me anyway "sponsored standards" esp with > sponsors mentioned on the cover instead of in thanks 'introduction'. > > What happens when the sponsors withdraw? How does that legally work with > distributing? What is there are updates (unlikely anyway). > > Indeed: here pdfa sells to you some books (at 0=E2=82=AC , but it's alwa= ys a sale) and as a general rule you cannot put them on a public site for a free download -- and this is the case , in my opinion. So one has to fill the form with real data (personal or company), because you are agreeing on a sale. -- luigi --000000000000662ca205f8a5b996 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


=
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 09:02, Hans Hag= en via ntg-context <ntg-context@nt= g.nl> wrote:
On 4/6/2023 8:07 AM, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 07:54, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
> <ntg-contex= t@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Am 05.04.23 um 20:09 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-con= text:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > On 4/5/2023 7:48 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via = ntg-context wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> Forwarding from Mastodon:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> Adobe, Apryse, Foxit and PDFAssociation h= ave partnered up and made
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> ISO32000-2 2020 (aka PDF 2.0),
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> ISO/TS 32001 (Extensions to Hash Algorith= m Support in ISO
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A032000-2) and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> ISO/TS 32002 (Extensions to Digital Signa= tures in ISO 32000-2)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> available as sponsored papers ... so **FR= EE**.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> Follow the links below; no valid email (o= r address) necessary:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> https://www.pdfa.org/spon= sored-standards/
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<https://www.pdfa.org/sponsored-= standards/>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > kind of interesting thatthe one from adobe is= version 1 and the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0other one 2
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > i'll wait till it's really free .. cu= rrently it still costs EUR
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A00, so
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > one has to fill in some cart / form
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0You can put in arbitrary data and then download. >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I don=E2=80=99t think it will become any more free.=
>
>
> indeed, but then:=C2=A0 why don't=C2=A0 we put them on the wiki si= te / another
> free site ?

=C2=A0> Any legal restrictions ?

Probably okay as long as one doesn't resell it for EUR 0 ...

It all looks a bit weird to me anyway "sponsored standards" esp w= ith
sponsors mentioned on the cover instead of in thanks 'introduction'= .

What happens when the sponsors withdraw? How does that legally work with distributing? What is there are updates (unlikely anyway).


Indeed:=C2=A0 here=C2=A0 pdfa sells to you some boo= ks=C2=A0 (at 0=E2=82=AC , but it's always a sale)
and as a ge= neral rule=C2=A0 you cannot=C2=A0 put them on a public site=C2=A0 for a fre= e=C2=A0download --=C2=A0 and this is the case , in my opinion.
So= one has to fill the form with real data (personal or company), because you= are agreeing on a sale.

--
luigi
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