From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/73579 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: most recent manual Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:18:37 +0100 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0412547358==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325582343 13833 80.91.229.12 (3 Jan 2012 09:19:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:19:03 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Jan 03 10:18:59 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri0WI-0006s2-46 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:18:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A746CB1CC; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:18:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id LcI3GQdLlDqK; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:18:54 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7015CB1C8; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:18:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B50CB1C8 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:18:52 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id BESaUU-CZBwo for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:18:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (filter2-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.70]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC0ECABBD for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:18:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id q039IcKC001819 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:18:39 +0100 Original-Received: by iacb35 with SMTP id b35so36900177iac.14 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:18:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9mH6C0Sv/6FJpmWTP8a98or0E4I/VequNPicRvPtTNo=; b=tru0A+XC8aXyWOTLEcWSXrtx9i5NzTYYSf368rcxX8NkAebCRPe5C8qjxAuVVprOFI xWEfjT0ez3DEcK6MlAOQPCYJ3FVPHgQ+sb7aF12h6eTz/66WpDw9jKvdJoZY+z98rcDF 9ZsJ5H7RBwlDE3UwfPdkOJyXDGWguy53OTE1E= Original-Received: by 10.43.50.67 with SMTP id vd3mr52260531icb.10.1325582317788; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:18:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.50.57.131 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 01:18:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.210.169; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0rGgViDoR - f45944120454 - 20120103 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.70 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:73579 Archived-At: --===============0412547358== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52be88d2c1dbd04b59c2fa7 --bcaec52be88d2c1dbd04b59c2fa7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Chris Lott wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Chris Lott wrote: > > I'm working my way through the ConTeXt manual/reference. I discovered > > the draft of a new manual at: > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/manual_being_revised -- is this the > > latest available anywhere? I'm finding a lot of things that are out of > > date in the new draft (for instance, using \setupnote[footnote] > > instead of \setupfootnotes) which generally means doing it wrong, > > searching google and the wiki for information, and finding out that > > things have changed :) Is this the best way? > > A clarification because a backchannel note made me suspect this > question might be taken the wrong way: it isn't intended to imply a > criticism... I'm just making sure I'm using the most recent resources! > there are the books at http://www.h2o-books.com/catalog/5 but in the end the most recent resources are (in this order) the mailing list, the wiki, the pdfs on specific arguments (as that one for xtable) and the book. Mkiv is still changing, and sometime things stop working (mkiv is not frozen as mkii, so it's better to keep around the last working beta), but my ten year experience says that the user interface doesn't vary so much (at least I've not found revolutions on this side); if you are programming at the macro level the ultimate reference is the source, which is quite readable --- well, much more than a Latex packages, but it's my opinion. And on this side mkiv is, if not a revolution, at least a strong evolution. -- luigi --bcaec52be88d2c1dbd04b59c2fa7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Chris Lo= tt <chris@chris= lott.org> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Chris Lott <chris@chrislott.org> wrote:
> I'm working my way through the ConTeXt manual/reference. I discove= red
> the draft of a new manual at:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/manual_being_revised -- is th= is the
> latest available anywhere? I'm finding a lot of things that are ou= t of
> date in the new draft (for instance, using \setupnote[footnote]
> instead of \setupfootnotes) which generally means doing it wrong,
> searching google and the wiki for information, and finding out that > things have changed :) Is this the best way?

A clarification because a backchannel note made me suspect this
question might be taken the wrong way: it isn't intended to imply a
criticism... I'm just making sure I'm using the most recent resourc= es!
there are the books at=C2=A0
http://www.h2o-books.com/catalog/5
but in the end the most recent resources are (in this order) the m= ailing list,=C2=A0the wiki, the pdfs on specific arguments (as that one for= xtable) and the book.
Mkiv is still changing, and =C2=A0sometime things stop working (mkiv i= s not frozen as mkii, so it's better to keep around the last working be= ta), but=C2=A0
my ten year experience says that the user interfac= e doesn't vary so much (at least I've not found revolutions on this= side);
if you are programming at the macro level the ultimate reference is th= e source, which is quite readable --- well, much more than a Latex packages= , but it's my opinion.=C2=A0
And on this side mkiv is, if not= a revolution, at least a strong evolution.

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luigi

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