* issue loading fonts
@ 2018-10-22 19:18 Pablo Rodriguez
2018-10-22 19:35 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2018-10-22 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear list,
I have the following sample:
\definefontfamily
[mainface]
[rm]
[Pagella]
[tf={file:texgyrepagella-regular.otf},
bf={file:texgyrepagella-regular-500.otf},
it={file:texgyrepagella-regular-2000.otf}]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\starttext
normal\\
\bf bold\\
\it italics
\stoptext
Sorry, but I don’t get the fonts for \bf and \it loaded.
What am I doing wrong?
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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* Re: issue loading fonts
2018-10-22 19:18 issue loading fonts Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2018-10-22 19:35 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2018-10-22 20:03 ` Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2018-10-22 19:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Are the bold and italic fonts listed when you run the fonts script?
mtxrun --script fonts --list --all texgyrepagella*
Wolfgang
Pablo Rodriguez schrieb am 22.10.18 um 21:18:
> Dear list,
>
> I have the following sample:
>
> \definefontfamily
> [mainface]
> [rm]
> [Pagella]
> [tf={file:texgyrepagella-regular.otf},
> bf={file:texgyrepagella-regular-500.otf},
> it={file:texgyrepagella-regular-2000.otf}]
>
> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
> \starttext
> normal\\
> \bf bold\\
> \it italics
> \stoptext
>
> Sorry, but I don’t get the fonts for \bf and \it loaded.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Many thanks for your help,
>
> Pablo
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* Re: issue loading fonts
2018-10-22 19:35 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2018-10-22 20:03 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2018-10-23 9:17 ` Arthur Reutenauer
2018-10-23 9:54 ` luigi scarso
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2018-10-22 20:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10/22/18 9:35 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Are the bold and italic fonts listed when you run the fonts script?
>
> mtxrun --script fonts --list --all texgyrepagella*
Yes, they are listed.
And I even get the fonts loaded when the font family is different:
\definefontfamily
[mainface]
[rm]
[Pagella]
[tf={file:texgyrepagella-bolditalic.otf},
bf={file:texgyrepagella-italic.otf},
it={file:texgyrepagella-regular.otf}]
I may use them with
\definefont[TestMM][file:texgyrepagella-regular-2000.otf at 10pt]
But not with \definefontfamily.
Pablo
> Pablo Rodriguez schrieb am 22.10.18 um 21:18:
>> Dear list,
>>
>> I have the following sample:
>>
>> \definefontfamily
>> [mainface]
>> [rm]
>> [Pagella]
>> [tf={file:texgyrepagella-regular.otf},
>> bf={file:texgyrepagella-regular-500.otf},
>> it={file:texgyrepagella-regular-2000.otf}]
>>
>> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>> \starttext
>> normal\\
>> \bf bold\\
>> \it italics
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Sorry, but I don’t get the fonts for \bf and \it loaded.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> Many thanks for your help,
>>
>> Pablo
>
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* Re: issue loading fonts
2018-10-22 20:03 ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2018-10-23 9:17 ` Arthur Reutenauer
2018-10-23 14:30 ` Rik
2018-10-23 9:54 ` luigi scarso
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From: Arthur Reutenauer @ 2018-10-23 9:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:03:09PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 10/22/18 9:35 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Are the bold and italic fonts listed when you run the fonts script?
>>
>> mtxrun --script fonts --list --all texgyrepagella*
>
> Yes, they are listed.
That’s not what I observe: the real bold and italic fonts are listed,
but not the ones that are defined as bold and italic by
\definefontfamily, i. e. texgyrepagella-regular-500.otf and
texgyrepagella-regular-2000.otf. However, these two files are available
to ConTeXt:
> I may use them with
>
> \definefont[TestMM][file:texgyrepagella-regular-2000.otf at 10pt]
>
> But not with \definefontfamily.
I can reproduce this. That means ConTeXt won’t let you use a
regular-weight font face as the bold version of a font family, nor an
upright font as an italic one, which in my opinion is rather a good
thing.
Best,
Arthur
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* Re: issue loading fonts
2018-10-22 20:03 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2018-10-23 9:17 ` Arthur Reutenauer
@ 2018-10-23 9:54 ` luigi scarso
2018-10-23 10:23 ` Arthur Reutenauer
2018-10-23 18:34 ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2018-10-23 9:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:03 PM Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
> On 10/22/18 9:35 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> > Are the bold and italic fonts listed when you run the fonts script?
> >
> > mtxrun --script fonts --list --all texgyrepagella*
>
> Yes, they are listed.
>
> And I even get the fonts loaded when the font family is different:
>
> \definefontfamily
> [mainface]
> [rm]
> [Pagella]
> [tf={file:texgyrepagella-bolditalic.otf},
> bf={file:texgyrepagella-italic.otf},
> it={file:texgyrepagella-regular.otf}]
>
> Are you sure about the syntax of definefotnfamily ?
You can check conflicts with
$> mtxrun --script fonts --info --list --all pagella
PS
Experimenting is sometime the only way to learn,
but it's clear that it's mandatory to use a sandbox.
Modifying only some names can be ok with \definefont
but it's very likely that all these
texgyrepagella-regular-*.otf manually patched are in conflict
-- they go into the cache, so it can happen that silently context use
texgyrepagella-regular-500.otf instead of texgyrepagella-regular.otf .
At least
mtxrun --script pdf --fonts <pdffile>
should show you the right names.
--
luigi
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* Re: issue loading fonts
2018-10-23 9:54 ` luigi scarso
@ 2018-10-23 10:23 ` Arthur Reutenauer
2018-10-23 18:34 ` luigi scarso
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From: Arthur Reutenauer @ 2018-10-23 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:54:44AM +0200, luigi scarso wrote:
> At least
> mtxrun --script pdf --fonts <pdffile>
> should show you the right names.
Actually, even that can miss: I’ve just made a file with two different
fonts that each identify themselves as TeXGyrePagella-Regular, one of
which is the modified font with 2000 UPM, and that can be seen inside
the font stream (the FontFile3 entry in the font descriptor). The name
TeXGyrePagella-Regular2000 appears there and only there. Not surprising
that it would be inconsistent, of course.
Best,
Arthur
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* Re: issue loading fonts
2018-10-23 9:17 ` Arthur Reutenauer
@ 2018-10-23 14:30 ` Rik
2018-10-23 15:42 ` Arthur Reutenauer
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From: Rik @ 2018-10-23 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10/23/2018 05:17, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
> ...
> I can reproduce this. That means ConTeXt won’t let you use a
> regular-weight font face as the bold version of a font family, nor an
> upright font as an italic one, which in my opinion is rather a good
> thing.
That is simply wrong.
Not only will ConTeXt happily let you do that, it is sometimes a good
thing to do. In a font with many weights, you have to select appropriate
faces for the medium or printing method, and using a light face for the
normal and a regular weight (whatever that means for the font) for bold
emphasis. Or you may want change the way emphasis is used to make a
point, and reverse bold and italic in one swell foop.
The example on the wiki page for \definefontfamily shows some of this in
action, but ConTeXt does not get in the way of doing even sillier things:
\definefontfamily [reutenauer]
[rm]
[sourcecodepro]
[tf=style:bolditalic,
it=file:kabelblack.ttf,
bf=style:normal,
bi=file:comic.ttf]
\setupbodyfont [reutenauer]
\starttext
tf: {\tf \fontname\font\ \samplefile{ward}}\par
it: {\it \fontname\font\ \samplefile{ward}}\par
bf: {\bf \fontname\font\ \samplefile{ward}}\par
bi: {\bi \fontname\font\ \samplefile{ward}}\par
\stoptext
--
Rik
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* Re: issue loading fonts
2018-10-23 14:30 ` Rik
@ 2018-10-23 15:42 ` Arthur Reutenauer
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From: Arthur Reutenauer @ 2018-10-23 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:30:36AM -0400, Rik wrote:
> On 10/23/2018 05:17, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
>
>> I can reproduce this. That means ConTeXt won’t let you use a
>> regular-weight font face as the bold version of a font family, nor an
>> upright font as an italic one, which in my opinion is rather a good
>> thing.
>
> That is simply wrong.
I know. I realised that Pablo was trying to say exactly that.
ConTeXt does not prevent users from shooting themselves in the foot.
But why do it?
Arthur
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* Re: issue loading fonts
2018-10-23 9:54 ` luigi scarso
2018-10-23 10:23 ` Arthur Reutenauer
@ 2018-10-23 18:34 ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2018-10-23 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:54 AM luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:03 PM Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
>
>> On 10/22/18 9:35 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> > Are the bold and italic fonts listed when you run the fonts script?
>> >
>> > mtxrun --script fonts --list --all texgyrepagella*
>>
>> Yes, they are listed.
>>
>> And I even get the fonts loaded when the font family is different:
>>
>> \definefontfamily
>> [mainface]
>> [rm]
>> [Pagella]
>> [tf={file:texgyrepagella-bolditalic.otf},
>> bf={file:texgyrepagella-italic.otf},
>> it={file:texgyrepagella-regular.otf}]
>>
>> Are you sure about the syntax of definefotnfamily ?
>
uh, *my* \definefotnfamily is wrong...
--
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