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* Outputting custom types in MKiv bibliography
@ 2016-03-30 14:17 Mike O'Connor
  2016-05-05  8:39 ` luigi scarso
  2018-08-15 10:27 ` XML to ConTeXt: converting date attribute from ISO date Mike O'Connor
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mike O'Connor @ 2016-03-30 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

Hello,

I’m trying to create my first publication using ConTeXt mkiv. All going well except for the bibliography formatting.

Previously I have used LaTeX, standard entry types in BibTeX, and custom output formats using Biblatex.

My publication cites lots of historical sources, viz.:
	(1) Newspaper articles — currently stored as ‘article’ types in BibTex.
	(2) Archival sources (historic letter, some leather-bound volume, a catalogued box of old photographs, etc.) — currently stored as ‘unpublished’ or ‘misc'.

I would prefer to store these (in BibTeX, buffer, lua, or xml) as custom types (eg. ‘newspaper’, ‘archivalItem’), create setups for how they are output and which fields I output.

I found a ’newspaper’ type (and other non-BibTeX types) defined in publ-imp-apa.mkiv as:

\startsetups btx:apa:list:newspaper
    \fastsetup{btx:apa:list:article}
\stopsetups

I hoped this would mean I could output something:
	Boxing. (1903, September 13). The Sunday Times, p.8  

However, if I create an item of type 'newspaper’ and \cite it I get an output of all stored fields:
	newspaper: [day: 13] [journal: {The Sunday Times}] [month: 09] [pages:8][title: {Boxing.}] [type: newspaper article] [year: 1903]
A similar thing happens if I try to cite the standard BibTeX type ‘misc’.

If I store the newspaper item as type ‘article’ I get:
		“Boxing.”, The Sunday Times, 8, 1903.   (missing day and month)

Is it relevant that there is a problem when I include \showbtxfields[rotation=30] in my document? The resulting table has ‘*’ for fields in ‘article’, ‘book’, ‘demo-a’, ‘demo-b’ but the columns for ‘newspaper’ and ‘misc’ are empty.

Any pointers gratefully received.

Cheers,

Mike O’Connor

P.S. I am working in TeXShop on OSX (10.11.3), and it reports:
	This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.80.0 (TeX Live 2015) (rev 5238) 
	ConTeXt  ver: 2015.05.18 12:26 MKIV current  fmt: 2016.3.19  int: english/english

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* Re: Outputting custom types in MKiv bibliography
  2016-03-30 14:17 Outputting custom types in MKiv bibliography Mike O'Connor
@ 2016-05-05  8:39 ` luigi scarso
  2018-08-15 10:27 ` XML to ConTeXt: converting date attribute from ISO date Mike O'Connor
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From: luigi scarso @ 2016-05-05  8:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Mike O'Connor <ipso.vocat@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I’m trying to create my first publication using ConTeXt mkiv. All going
> well except for the bibliography formatting.
>
>
sorry for delay, you email was marked as deferred (new account) and  we
were busy due
the texlive deadline.


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* XML to ConTeXt: converting date attribute from ISO date
  2016-03-30 14:17 Outputting custom types in MKiv bibliography Mike O'Connor
  2016-05-05  8:39 ` luigi scarso
@ 2018-08-15 10:27 ` Mike O'Connor
  2018-08-15 12:04   ` Hans Hagen
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From: Mike O'Connor @ 2018-08-15 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context


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G’Day,

Having a first go at converting TEI XML to ConTeXt.  

Steep learning curve, but easier (for me) than XSLT, and first results were amazing.  Using http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xml-mkiv.pdf <http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xml-mkiv.pdf> as a guide.

Currently stuck on converting an ISO format date (eg. 1908-01-10) into something more readable (eg. 10 January 1908) in the output.  I presume I should create a function (?luacode) that can take any ISO value and output the readable form.  The following works but seems to me inefficient.

Grateful for any pointers.

Mike

Here is my MWE:

\startbuffer[demo]
<TEI>
    <text>
        <body>
            <div type="letter">
                <opener>
                    <date when-iso="1908-01-10" type="divDate">10.I.08</date>
                </opener>
                <closer>
                	<date when-iso="1908-03-19" type="secondDate">19 Mar '08</date>
                </closer>
            </div>
        </body>
    </text>
</TEI>
\stopbuffer

\startxmlsetups xml:initialize
	\xmlsetsetup{#1}{date}{xml:date}
\stopxmlsetups
    
\xmlregistersetup{xml:initialize}

\startxmlsetups xml:date
	
	\xmldoifelse {#1}{.[@type='divDate']} {
		\def\docdate{\ctxlua{
			local tyear = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',1,4)
			local tmonth = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',6,7)
			local tday = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',9,10)
			context.date{d = tday, m = tmonth, y = tyear}
		}}
	
    	\docdate[day,month,year] = Document Date \par
    } {
		\def\docdate{\ctxlua{
			local tyear = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',1,4)
			local tmonth = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',6,7)
			local tday = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',9,10)
			context.date{d = tday, m = tmonth, y = tyear}
		}}    
    
    	\docdate[day,month,year] = Event Date\par
	}
\stopxmlsetups

\starttext
	\xmlprocessbuffer{main}{demo}{}
\stoptext

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* Re: XML to ConTeXt: converting date attribute from ISO date
  2018-08-15 10:27 ` XML to ConTeXt: converting date attribute from ISO date Mike O'Connor
@ 2018-08-15 12:04   ` Hans Hagen
  2020-03-11 13:14     ` Axel Kielhorn
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2018-08-15 12:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Mike O'Connor

On 8/15/2018 12:27 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
> G’Day,
> 
> Having a first go at converting TEI XML to ConTeXt.
> 
> Steep learning curve, but easier (for me) than XSLT, and first results 
> were amazing.  Using 
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xml-mkiv.pdf as a guide.
> 
> Currently stuck on converting an ISO format date (eg. 1908-01-10) into 
> something more readable (eg. 10 January 1908) in the output.  I presume 
> I should create a function (?luacode) that can take any ISO value and 
> output the readable form.  The following works but seems to me inefficient.
> 
> Grateful for any pointers.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Here is my MWE:
> 
> \startbuffer[demo]
> <TEI>
>      <text>
>          <body>
>              <div type="letter">
>                  <opener>
>                      <date when-iso="1908-01-10" 
> type="divDate">10.I.08</date>
>                  </opener>
>                  <closer>
> <date when-iso="1908-03-19" type="secondDate">19 Mar '08</date>
>                  </closer>
>              </div>
>          </body>
>      </text>
> </TEI>
> \stopbuffer
> 
> \startxmlsetups xml:initialize
> \xmlsetsetup{#1}{date}{xml:date}
> \stopxmlsetups
> \xmlregistersetup{xml:initialize}
> 
> \startxmlsetups xml:date
> \xmldoifelse {#1}{.[@type='divDate']} {
> \def\docdate{\ctxlua{
> local tyear = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',1,4)
> local tmonth = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',6,7)
> local tday = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',9,10)
> context.date{d = tday, m = tmonth, y = tyear}
> }}
> \docdate[day,month,year] = Document Date \par
>      } {
> \def\docdate{\ctxlua{
> local tyear = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',1,4)
> local tmonth = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',6,7)
> local tday = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',9,10)
> context.date{d = tday, m = tmonth, y = tyear}
> }}
> \docdate[day,month,year] = Event Date\par
> }
> \stopxmlsetups
> 
> \starttext
> \xmlprocessbuffer{main}{demo}{}
> \stoptext
Can be wikified ...

\startluacode
     function xml.finalizers.tex.MyDate(e,what,how)
         local t = string.split(e[1].at[what],"-")
         context.date(
             { y = t[1], m = t[2], d = t[3] },
             { how }
         )
     end
\stopluacode

\startxmlsetups xml:date

	\xmldoifelse {#1}{.[@type='divDate']} {
         \xmlfilter{#1}{./MyDate("when-iso","day,month,year")}\
     	Document Date \par
     } {
         \xmlfilter{#1}{./MyDate("when-iso","day,month,year")}\
         Event Date\par

	}
\stopxmlsetups

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* Re: XML to ConTeXt: converting date attribute from ISO date
  2018-08-15 12:04   ` Hans Hagen
@ 2020-03-11 13:14     ` Axel Kielhorn
  2020-03-11 14:01       ` Hans Hagen
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From: Axel Kielhorn @ 2020-03-11 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context



> Am 15.08.2018 um 14:04 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>:
> 
> On 8/15/2018 12:27 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>> G’Day,
>> Having a first go at converting TEI XML to ConTeXt.
>> Steep learning curve, but easier (for me) than XSLT, and first results were amazing.  Using http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xml-mkiv.pdf as a guide.
>> Currently stuck on converting an ISO format date (eg. 1908-01-10) into something more readable (eg. 10 January 1908) in the output.  I presume I should create a function (?luacode) that can take any ISO value and output the readable form.  The following works but seems to me inefficient.
>> Grateful for any pointers.
>> Mike
>> Here is my MWE:
>> \startbuffer[demo]
>> <TEI>
>>     <text>
>>         <body>
>>             <div type="letter">
>>                 <opener>
>>                     <date when-iso="1908-01-10" type="divDate">10.I.08</date>
>>                 </opener>
>>                 <closer>
>> <date when-iso="1908-03-19" type="secondDate">19 Mar '08</date>
>>                 </closer>
>>             </div>
>>         </body>
>>     </text>
>> </TEI>
>> \stopbuffer
>> \startxmlsetups xml:initialize
>> \xmlsetsetup{#1}{date}{xml:date}
>> \stopxmlsetups
>> \xmlregistersetup{xml:initialize}
>> \startxmlsetups xml:date
>> \xmldoifelse {#1}{.[@type='divDate']} {
>> \def\docdate{\ctxlua{
>> local tyear = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',1,4)
>> local tmonth = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',6,7)
>> local tday = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',9,10)
>> context.date{d = tday, m = tmonth, y = tyear}
>> }}
>> \docdate[day,month,year] = Document Date \par
>>     } {
>> \def\docdate{\ctxlua{
>> local tyear = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',1,4)
>> local tmonth = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',6,7)
>> local tday = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',9,10)
>> context.date{d = tday, m = tmonth, y = tyear}
>> }}
>> \docdate[day,month,year] = Event Date\par
>> }
>> \stopxmlsetups
>> \starttext
>> \xmlprocessbuffer{main}{demo}{}
>> \stoptext
> Can be wikified ...
> 
> \startluacode
>    function xml.finalizers.tex.MyDate(e,what,how)
>        local t = string.split(e[1].at[what],"-")
>        context.date(
>            { y = t[1], m = t[2], d = t[3] },
>            { how }
>        )
>    end
> \stopluacode
> 
> \startxmlsetups xml:date
> 
> 	\xmldoifelse {#1}{.[@type='divDate']} {
>        \xmlfilter{#1}{./MyDate("when-iso","day,month,year")}\
>    	Document Date \par
>    } {
>        \xmlfilter{#1}{./MyDate("when-iso","day,month,year")}\
>        Event Date\par
> 
> 	}
> \stopxmlsetups

I couldn’t get this to work.
Had to change it to:

\startluacode
   function xml.finalizers.tex.MyDate(e,what,how)
       local ee = e[1].at[what]
       local t = (string.split(ee,"-"))
       context.date(
           { y = t[1], m = t[2], d = t[3] },
           { how }
       )                 
   end
\stopluacode

mtx-context     | ConTeXt Process Management 1.03
mtx-context     |
mtx-context     | main context file: /Volumes/Macintosh HD/usr/local/texlive/context-109/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkiv
mtx-context     | current version: 2020.01.30 14:13
mtx-context     | main context file: /Volumes/Macintosh HD/usr/local/texlive/context-109/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/context.mkxl
mtx-context     | current version: 2020.01.30 14:13

Greetings Axel

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* Re: XML to ConTeXt: converting date attribute from ISO date
  2020-03-11 13:14     ` Axel Kielhorn
@ 2020-03-11 14:01       ` Hans Hagen
       [not found]         ` <B77FE72A-BC5E-4E34-A859-8CD860E9B978@axelkielhorn.de>
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-03-11 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Axel Kielhorn,
	ntg-context@ntg.nl >> mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 3/11/2020 2:14 PM, Axel Kielhorn wrote:
> 
> 
>> Am 15.08.2018 um 14:04 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>:
>>
>> On 8/15/2018 12:27 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>>> G’Day,
>>> Having a first go at converting TEI XML to ConTeXt.
>>> Steep learning curve, but easier (for me) than XSLT, and first results were amazing.  Using http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xml-mkiv.pdf as a guide.
>>> Currently stuck on converting an ISO format date (eg. 1908-01-10) into something more readable (eg. 10 January 1908) in the output.  I presume I should create a function (?luacode) that can take any ISO value and output the readable form.  The following works but seems to me inefficient.
>>> Grateful for any pointers.
>>> Mike
>>> Here is my MWE:
>>> \startbuffer[demo]
>>> <TEI>
>>>      <text>
>>>          <body>
>>>              <div type="letter">
>>>                  <opener>
>>>                      <date when-iso="1908-01-10" type="divDate">10.I.08</date>
>>>                  </opener>
>>>                  <closer>
>>> <date when-iso="1908-03-19" type="secondDate">19 Mar '08</date>
>>>                  </closer>
>>>              </div>
>>>          </body>
>>>      </text>
>>> </TEI>
>>> \stopbuffer
>>> \startxmlsetups xml:initialize
>>> \xmlsetsetup{#1}{date}{xml:date}
>>> \stopxmlsetups
>>> \xmlregistersetup{xml:initialize}
>>> \startxmlsetups xml:date
>>> \xmldoifelse {#1}{.[@type='divDate']} {
>>> \def\docdate{\ctxlua{
>>> local tyear = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',1,4)
>>> local tmonth = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',6,7)
>>> local tday = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',9,10)
>>> context.date{d = tday, m = tmonth, y = tyear}
>>> }}
>>> \docdate[day,month,year] = Document Date \par
>>>      } {
>>> \def\docdate{\ctxlua{
>>> local tyear = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',1,4)
>>> local tmonth = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',6,7)
>>> local tday = string.sub('\xmlatt{#1}{when-iso}',9,10)
>>> context.date{d = tday, m = tmonth, y = tyear}
>>> }}
>>> \docdate[day,month,year] = Event Date\par
>>> }
>>> \stopxmlsetups
>>> \starttext
>>> \xmlprocessbuffer{main}{demo}{}
>>> \stoptext
>> Can be wikified ...
>>
>> \startluacode
>>     function xml.finalizers.tex.MyDate(e,what,how)
>>         local t = string.split(e[1].at[what],"-")
>>         context.date(
>>             { y = t[1], m = t[2], d = t[3] },
>>             { how }
>>         )
>>     end
>> \stopluacode
>>
>> \startxmlsetups xml:date
>>
>> 	\xmldoifelse {#1}{.[@type='divDate']} {
>>         \xmlfilter{#1}{./MyDate("when-iso","day,month,year")}\
>>     	Document Date \par
>>     } {
>>         \xmlfilter{#1}{./MyDate("when-iso","day,month,year")}\
>>         Event Date\par
>>
>> 	}
>> \stopxmlsetups
> 
> I couldn’t get this to work.
> Had to change it to:
> 
> \startluacode
>     function xml.finalizers.tex.MyDate(e,what,how)
>         local ee = e[1].at[what]
>         local t = (string.split(ee,"-"))
>         context.date(
>             { y = t[1], m = t[2], d = t[3] },
>             { how }
>         )
>     end
> \stopluacode
You mean the () around the split? weird. Anyway, there's also a time 
splitter (dedicated to Alan who needed one):

print(os.time(utilities.parsers.totime("2019-03-05 12:12:12")))
print(os.time(utilities.parsers.totime("2019/03/05 12:12:12")))
print(os.time(utilities.parsers.totime("05-03-2019 12:12:12")))
print(os.time(utilities.parsers.totime("05/03/2019 12:12:12")))

inspect(utilities.parsers.totime("2019-03-05 12:12:12"))
inspect(utilities.parsers.totime("2019/03/05 12:12:12"))
inspect(utilities.parsers.totime("05-03-2019 12:12:12"))
inspect(utilities.parsers.totime("05/03/2019 12:12:12"))


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* Re: XML to ConTeXt: converting date attribute from ISO date
       [not found]           ` <faf46a0b-2726-9dd8-d62b-8288e7fb1849@xs4all.nl>
@ 2020-03-11 14:38             ` Axel Kielhorn
  2020-03-11 15:54               ` Axel Kielhorn
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Axel Kielhorn @ 2020-03-11 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context



> Am 11.03.2020 um 15:19 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>:
> 
> On 3/11/2020 3:12 PM, Axel Kielhorn wrote:
>>> Am 11.03.2020 um 15:01 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>:
>>> 
>>> On 3/11/2020 2:14 PM, Axel Kielhorn wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Had to change it to:
>>>> \startluacode
>>>>    function xml.finalizers.tex.MyDate(e,what,how)
>>>>        local ee = e[1].at[what]
>>>>        local t = (string.split(ee,"-"))
>>>>        context.date(
>>>>            { y = t[1], m = t[2], d = t[3] },
>>>>            { how }
>>>>        )
>>>>    end
>>>> \stopluacode
>>> You mean the () around the split? weird. Anyway, there's also a time splitter (dedicated to Alan who needed one):
>> No, sorry that’s an artifact from testing.
>> I had to assign:
>> local ee = e[1].at[what]
>> and
>> string.split(ee,"-")
>> in two steps while the original had
>> local t = string.split(e[1].at[what],"-")
> still strange because it's one value, if it were multiple you could do

This is strange.
Now it works.

Earlier I had context.date complaining that it got a table and not a string.
That’s why I took the t = assignment apart into pieces.

Now I copied the code from the original reply and it works.

Sorry for the noise.

Axel


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* Re: XML to ConTeXt: converting date attribute from ISO date
  2020-03-11 14:38             ` Axel Kielhorn
@ 2020-03-11 15:54               ` Axel Kielhorn
  2020-03-11 19:22                 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Axel Kielhorn @ 2020-03-11 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

Hello Hans and mailing list!

Thank you so much.

With this example and the help I received earlier from Massi, 
I’ve been able to write my first finalizer today.

It is amazing how powerful luatex is.

My project needs some cleanup and documentation but I hope to put it on GitHub soon.
After that I will try to put a minimal version into the wiki.

Greetings Axel
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* Re: XML to ConTeXt: converting date attribute from ISO date
  2020-03-11 15:54               ` Axel Kielhorn
@ 2020-03-11 19:22                 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-03-11 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Axel Kielhorn

On 3/11/2020 4:54 PM, Axel Kielhorn wrote:
> Hello Hans and mailing list!
> 
> Thank you so much.
> 
> With this example and the help I received earlier from Massi,
> I’ve been able to write my first finalizer today.
> 
> It is amazing how powerful luatex is.

indeed (and luametatex is supposed to be even bit more powerful)

> My project needs some cleanup and documentation but I hope to put it on GitHub soon.
> After that I will try to put a minimal version into the wiki.
that would be nice. thanks

Hans

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