From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/83230 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Overriding pdfview Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:16:51 +0200 Message-ID: References: <51CAF274.9050503@meahan.net> <51CB0614.5030208@meahan.net> <51CB4133.7060707@wxs.nl> <20130626205005.GA22202@phlegethon> <51CB55DF.4080300@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0289622192==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372281428 18894 80.91.229.3 (26 Jun 2013 21:17:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 21:17:08 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Jun 26 23:17:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Urx5Q-0003nG-Hz for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:17:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EF0101E5; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:17:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id YDUiw-09zaHN; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:17:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F317101E8; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:17:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DDB101E8 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:17:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id XumX7bgSB5le for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:17:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter2-til.mf.surf.net (filter2-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.218]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF488101E5 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:16:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) by filter2-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r5QLGpOo015697 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:16:51 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fo12so14372140lab.11 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:16:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ihap4GRO713vZObtssgbMv60mmh3z4Sffimwu0czWlg=; b=KUktOgnY4suND9Kg1GoxC9bMmyX3JbUwHGaIivP/i17jeM9VUogENnyJ5AOo1JZCvs Z+GYtNI7gboJZy0AfoVuQbtvX3IQVkDpJKLAfPuLy5FuUdoN/7vtI+x+S8uZPt+fS3G6 SxhlpbD5LiwaRFugFLaiZWSIGkckppZkSXpzwsY4NHqveuH/F8yU+ISwAQQ2I9Z3VMV9 2fBNzuPaAaTmG2atrGtPMIS8smbcAbLiikGH7T9Y05sh3ez+NfJH0CI4FsAIvCMnd+Mo hL3cs2QCwOcO5YoED4T6Qjssis9fp/HRCyAgDvliB3Z/nsmkzGqplKicdjQKRZ5e4vob +hVA== X-Received: by 10.112.168.132 with SMTP id zw4mr2924495lbb.79.1372281411311; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.114.160.83 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 14:16:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51CB55DF.4080300@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::234; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0TJR9gPqo - 3c5e701abc3e - 20130626 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:83230 Archived-At: --===============0289622192== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c234960d9ddf04e0152a82 --001a11c234960d9ddf04e0152a82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 6/26/2013 10:50 PM, Philipp Gesang wrote: > >> Hi Luigi! >> >> =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7 >> >> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> >>> >>>> while sumatrapdf >>>> >>>> - is pretty fast >>>> - has matured quite well >>>> - remembers the current page >>>> - renders quite ok >>>> - even supports some basic interactivity >>>> - (has an ugly yellow pop up windows but those can nowadays be >>>> recolored) >>>> - can be installed as portable application >>>> - works ok wine/linux (in fact has my preference now when on linux) >>>> >>>> I have to admit that I often think to a context pdf viewer, and mupdf >>>> >>> seems the right candidate. >>> Under ubuntu 64bit 12.04 xpdf doesn't work, acroreader is still 9 32 bi= t >>> (so I use wine acroreader 11) >>> evince is ok, probably also okular. >>> A context pdf viewer should be like sumatrapdf at least --- so in the >>> end >>> I also installed sumatrapdf.exe under linux . >>> >>> Now that I have done a luatex binding for mupdf, >>> if we have a minimal GUI toolkit cross platform (but really minimal) >>> it's possible to build a pdfviewer in luatex >>> >> >> If you=E2=80=99re serious about this, the Zathura guys have a separate >> interface library based on GTK [1]. Having some (any) Lua >> capability inside a pdf viewer would indeed be nice. >> > > FYI: After Luigi and I have wrapped up the projects "swiglib" (libraries) > and "speed-up-luatex" projects we will start our "lua-in-pdf-viewer" > exploration (after all pdf permits additional annotations) ... and we nee= d > challenges. > > Hans > > yes, approximately/hopefully end of next year, and suggestions are all welcome, of course --- and the meeting is a nice place to discuss these kind of things. Of course a good solution has small size, it is fast and works in the same way at least under Windows/Linux/Mac. --=20 luigi --001a11c234960d9ddf04e0152a82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Hans Hagen <= pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
On 6/26/2013 10= :50 PM, Philipp Gesang wrote:
Hi Luigi!

=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7<date: 2013-06-26, Wednesday>=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7<= from: luigi scarso>=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:


while sumatrapdf

- is pretty fast
- has matured quite well
- remembers the current page
- renders quite ok
- even supports some basic interactivity
- (has an ugly yellow pop up windows but those can nowadays be recolored) - can be installed as portable application
- works ok wine/linux (in fact has my preference now when on linux)

I have to admit that I often think to a context pdf viewer, and mupdf
seems the right candidate.
Under ubuntu 64bit 12.04 xpdf doesn't work, acroreader is still 9 32 bi= t
(so I use wine acroreader 11)
evince is ok, probably also okular.
A context pdf viewer should be like sumatrapdf at least --- =C2=A0so =C2=A0= in the end
I also installed sumatrapdf.exe under linux .

Now that I have done a luatex binding for mupdf,
if we have a minimal GUI toolkit cross platform (but really minimal)
it's possible to build a pdfviewer in luatex

If you=E2=80=99re serious about this, the Zathura guys have a separate
interface library based on GTK [1]. Having some (any) Lua
capability inside a pdf viewer would indeed be nice.

FYI: After Luigi and I have wrapped up the projects "swiglib" (li= braries) and "speed-up-luatex" projects we will start our "l= ua-in-pdf-viewer" exploration (after all pdf permits additional annota= tions) ... and we need challenges.

Hans


yes, approximately/hopefully end of next year, and suggestio= ns are all welcome, of course --- and the meeting is a nice place to discus= s these kind of things.
Of course=C2=A0 a good sol= ution has small size, it is fast and works in the same way at least under W= indows/Linux/Mac.


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luigi
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