From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/79405 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Section alone on the page Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:45:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <50AB923D.7090603@mmnetz.de> <50ACC2A6.3090902@wxs.nl> <50ACC460.5060706@mmnetz.de> <50ACD9E0.3080101@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1317351656==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353505516 12895 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2012 13:45:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:45:16 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Nov 21 14:45:27 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TbAcJ-000248-AQ for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:45:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B061035E; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:45:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id iRpzwd4xjG1W; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5805C10361; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:45:13 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569E810361 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:45:11 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uzOaHiIIc6MP for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:45:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394701035E for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:45:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id qALDj2D7009462 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:45:03 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d41so5015827eek.14 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:45:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EP57iO9YSIs7tELhNmIUpyyJFVRbXNrrC9f7N7cnJIc=; b=Ua1UhwOuO6WleHnFVrDXg3wY1z4Tl2qX/qt1o/tsuGojnfC5+H3Ryh2Nji2hXs5rrp sV0Z9XYsjQcxnYjVqgUKgJxZzLVDiAhyrrCneDEDM3v+mDCpuZvCpctolv+yVAkHefAF 0vuEUhbrwhYwyashSaIp6TvIAPYJ/lKdpJ55+6JqpRvsmuYlPM0mEkHbEzJI+RMI1HbQ 0GpxzRBiBU/T5uC9TPrE5lnPw1CM5o6eL4MQ1MjEAOPI0upZE64XYXEKpX7qAWkSiUtH aZyYIdLPQZtIEA7EluaufM4AnLxruBuWrmVdIM17Web4ubOZPufzM258v/jfskgJLKVb WP4Q== Original-Received: by 10.14.1.69 with SMTP id 45mr45802578eec.23.1353505502771; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:45:02 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.223.192.193 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 05:45:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50ACD9E0.3080101@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=74.125.83.41; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03IqdJ2xF - c1415918fca5 - 20121121 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.71 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:79405 Archived-At: --===============1317351656== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b622570b1bb4a04cf018e19 --047d7b622570b1bb4a04cf018e19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 11/21/2012 1:09 PM, "H. =C3=96zoguz" wrote: > >> Am 21.11.2012 13:01, schrieb Hans Hagen: >> >>> On 11/20/2012 3:22 PM, "H. =C3=96zoguz" wrote: >>> >>>> Am 20.11.2012 12:00, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl: >>>> >>>>> It?s a problem with \blank which ignore the ?samepage? keyword in gri= d >>>>> mode. >>>>> >>>>> When you process this example in normal mode ?line 40? is moved to th= e >>>>> second page but in grid mode it stays on the first page. >>>>> >>>> Is theat easy to fix or a long-term-todo? (Layouting books, I need >>>> gridding, indeed, at first that was my reason to start with context) >>>> >>> >>> it will probably be improved over time, but interplay between skips an >>> penalties and such is always tricky; we have a weighted system in >>> place but even then ... >>> >>> Hans >>> >> >> Ok, so what are my alternatives for layouting big projects like books, >> with lots of sections? >> >> Of course I could always go through and manually add "\page", but that >> would be the worst-case, and possibily an origin for many mistakes. >> >> Is there any work-around or other possibilities for this? Downgrading to >> older versions of context is no alternative, because I need some >> modules, which need the newest version. And I can not layout with >> gridset=3Dyes, too. >> >> I'm thinking of some script, which checks globally how the sections are >> set (like I can do it manually) and adds "\page" to the files before the >> section-commands or deletes the "\page", if it is not needed anymore. >> > > adding before=3D{\testpage[5]\blank} or so > > https://mail.google.com/mail/#search/\\testpage/137d7bd313501ff5 --=20 luigi --047d7b622570b1bb4a04cf018e19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, N= ov 21, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
On 11/21/2012 1:09 PM, "H. =C3=96zog= uz" wrote:
Am 21.11.2012 13:01, schrieb Hans Hagen:
On 11/20/2012 3:22 PM, "H. =C3=96zoguz" wrote:
Am 20.11.2012 12:00, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
It?s a problem with \blank which ignore the ?samepage? keyword in grid
mode.

When you process this example in normal mode ?line 40? is moved to the
second page but in grid mode it stays on the first page.
Is theat easy to fix or a long-term-todo? (Layouting books, I need
gridding, indeed, at first that was my reason to start with context)

it will probably be improved over time, but interplay between skips an
penalties and such is always tricky; we have a weighted system in
place but even then ...

Hans

Ok, so what are my alternatives for layouting big projects like books,
with lots of sections?

Of course I could always go through and manually add "\page", but= that
would be the worst-case, and possibily an origin for many mistakes.

Is there any work-around or other possibilities for this? Downgrading to older versions of context is no alternative, because I need some
modules, which need the newest version. And I can not layout with
gridset=3Dyes, too.

I'm thinking of some script, which checks globally how the sections are=
set (like I can do it manually) and adds "\page" to the files bef= ore the
section-commands or deletes the "\page", if it is not needed anym= ore.

adding before=3D{\testpage[5]\blank} or so


https://mail.google.com/mail/#search/\\te= stpage/137d7bd313501ff5
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luigi

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