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* Unsupported coverage contextpos for 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1
@ 2012-02-26 18:50 luigi scarso
  2012-02-26 19:42 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: luigi scarso @ 2012-02-26 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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From
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/45508/babel-in-contextluatex/45875#45875

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[TheanoDidot-Regular]
\setupbodyfont[12pt]
\mainlanguage[greek]
\starttext
ἡ ῥητορική  ἐστιν  ἀντίστροφος  τῇ διαλεκτικῇ:
ἀμφότεραι  γὰρ  περὶ
τοιούτων  τινῶν  εἰσιν  ἃ κοινὰ  τρόπον  τινὰ  ἁπάντων
ἐστὶ  γνωρίζειν
  καὶ  οὐδεμιᾶς  ἐπιστήμης  ἀφωρισμένης: διὸ  καὶ
πάντες  τρόπον  τινὰ
  μετέχουσιν  ἀμφοῖν: πάντες  γὰρ  μέχρι τινὸς καὶ
ἐξετάζειν καὶ ὑπέχειν
λόγον καὶ ἀπολογεῖσθαι καὶ κατηγορεῖν ἐγχειροῦσιν.
\language[en]
Typing in Greek in \ConTeXt{} is easy!
\stoptext

The font is from http://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts-download.html .
The log says :
fonts           > otf prepare > unsupported coverage contextpos for
'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1

Thomas ?

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* Re: Unsupported coverage contextpos for 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1
  2012-02-26 18:50 Unsupported coverage contextpos for 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1 luigi scarso
@ 2012-02-26 19:42 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
  2012-02-28 12:14   ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2012-02-26 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 02/26/2012 07:50 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> The font is fromhttp://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts-download.html  .
> The log says :
> fonts>  otf prepare>  unsupported coverage contextpos for
> 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1
>
> Thomas ?

Sorry, I have absolutely no clue what this is supposed to mean... I'm 
not even sure if the message comes from the core or Wolfgang's module? 
All I can say is: Theano-Didot is also supported by the ancientgreek 
module, and the font works normally here:

\usemodule[ancientgreek][font=TheanoDidot]
\starttext

\localgreek{ἡ ῥητορική  ἐστιν  ἀντίστροφος  τῇ διαλεκτικῇ:
ἀμφότεραι  γὰρ  περὶ
τοιούτων  τινῶν  εἰσιν  ἃ κοινὰ  τρόπον  τινὰ  ἁπάντων
ἐστὶ  γνωρίζειν
   καὶ  οὐδεμιᾶς  ἐπιστήμης  ἀφωρισμένης: διὸ  καὶ
πάντες  τρόπον  τινὰ
   μετέχουσιν  ἀμφοῖν: πάντες  γὰρ  μέχρι τινὸς καὶ
ἐξετάζειν καὶ ὑπέχειν
λόγον καὶ ἀπολογεῖσθαι καὶ κατηγορεῖν ἐγχειροῦσιν.}

Typing in Greek in \ConTeXt{} is easy!
\stoptext

Thomas
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* Re: Unsupported coverage contextpos for 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1
  2012-02-26 19:42 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2012-02-28 12:14   ` Hans Hagen
  2012-02-28 12:56     ` luigi scarso
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-02-28 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Thomas A. Schmitz

On 26-2-2012 20:42, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 02/26/2012 07:50 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
>> The font is fromhttp://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts-download.html .
>> The log says :
>> fonts> otf prepare> unsupported coverage contextpos for
>> 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1
>>
>> Thomas ?
>
> Sorry, I have absolutely no clue what this is supposed to mean... I'm
> not even sure if the message comes from the core or Wolfgang's module?
> All I can say is: Theano-Didot is also supported by the ancientgreek
> module, and the font works normally here:

No issues when I run:

\starttext

\definefontfeature
   [anogreek]
   [script=grek,mark=yes,kern=yes,mkmk=yes,rqd=yes,
    calt=yes,liga=yes,locl=yes,aalt=yes,ccmp=yes,dlig=yes,case=yes,salt=yes]

\definedfont[TheanoDidot-Regular*anogreek]

ἡ ῥητορική ἐστιν ἀντίστροφος τῇ διαλεκτικῇ: ἀμφότεραι
γὰρ περὶ τοιούτων τινῶν εἰσιν ἃ κοινὰ τρόπον τινὰ ἁπάντων
ἐστὶ γνωρίζειν καὶ οὐδεμιᾶς ἐπιστήμης ἀφωρισμένης: διὸ καὶ
πάντες τρόπον τινὰ μετέχουσιν ἀμφοῖν: πάντες γὰρ μέχρι τινὸς
καὶ ἐξετάζειν καὶ ὑπέχειν λόγον καὶ ἀπολογεῖσθαι καὶ κατηγορεῖν
ἐγχειροῦσιν.

\stoptext

Anyhow, we're not going to look into it if there is no proper test file 
showing the problem. We don't even know what features are involved.

Hans

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* Re: Unsupported coverage contextpos for 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1
  2012-02-28 12:14   ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-02-28 12:56     ` luigi scarso
  2012-02-28 20:45       ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: luigi scarso @ 2012-02-28 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 26-2-2012 20:42, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>>
>> On 02/26/2012 07:50 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
>>>
>>> The font is fromhttp://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts-download.html .
>>> The log says :
>>> fonts> otf prepare> unsupported coverage contextpos for
>>> 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1
>>>
>>> Thomas ?
>>
>>
>> Sorry, I have absolutely no clue what this is supposed to mean... I'm
>> not even sure if the message comes from the core or Wolfgang's module?
>> All I can say is: Theano-Didot is also supported by the ancientgreek
>> module, and the font works normally here:
>
>
> No issues when I run:
>
> \starttext
>
> \definefontfeature
>  [anogreek]
>  [script=grek,mark=yes,kern=yes,mkmk=yes,rqd=yes,
>   calt=yes,liga=yes,locl=yes,aalt=yes,ccmp=yes,dlig=yes,case=yes,salt=yes]
>
> \definedfont[TheanoDidot-Regular*anogreek]
>
>
> ἡ ῥητορική ἐστιν ἀντίστροφος τῇ διαλεκτικῇ: ἀμφότεραι
> γὰρ περὶ τοιούτων τινῶν εἰσιν ἃ κοινὰ τρόπον τινὰ ἁπάντων
> ἐστὶ γνωρίζειν καὶ οὐδεμιᾶς ἐπιστήμης ἀφωρισμένης: διὸ καὶ
> πάντες τρόπον τινὰ μετέχουσιν ἀμφοῖν: πάντες γὰρ μέχρι τινὸς
> καὶ ἐξετάζειν καὶ ὑπέχειν λόγον καὶ ἀπολογεῖσθαι καὶ κατηγορεῖν
> ἐγχειροῦσιν.
>
> \stoptext
>
> Anyhow, we're not going to look into it if there is no proper test file
> showing the problem. We don't even know what features are involved.
>
> Hans
It seems something related to simplefonts:

\starttext
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[TheanoDidot-Regular]
\stoptext


fonts           > otf prepare > unsupported coverage contextpos for
'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1



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* Re: Unsupported coverage contextpos for 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1
  2012-02-28 12:56     ` luigi scarso
@ 2012-02-28 20:45       ` Pablo Rodríguez
  2012-02-28 21:16         ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2012-02-28 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 02/28/2012 01:56 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> On 26-2-2012 20:42, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
¡>>> On 02/26/2012 07:50 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The font is fromhttp://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts-download.html .
>>>> The log says :
>>>> fonts> otf prepare> unsupported coverage contextpos for
>>>> 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1
>>>>
>>>> Thomas ?
>>>
>>> Sorry, I have absolutely no clue what this is supposed to mean... I'm
>>> not even sure if the message comes from the core or Wolfgang's module?
>>> All I can say is: Theano-Didot is also supported by the ancientgreek
>>> module, and the font works normally here:
>>
>> Anyhow, we're not going to look into it if there is no proper test file
>> showing the problem. We don't even know what features are involved.

Dear Luigi, Thomas and Hans,

I asked to the font creator (I had other issues with the font to report)
and he told me that this is actually a positive kerning in the combining
diacritical mark so they look exactly like the precombined characters
(so that Ἄ looks like of ῎Α).

I don't think it makes any sense to implement such a feature. And the
font creator may change this to the kern feature in a future release.

I hope it helps,


Pablo
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* Re: Unsupported coverage contextpos for 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1
  2012-02-28 20:45       ` Pablo Rodríguez
@ 2012-02-28 21:16         ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-02-28 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Pablo Rodríguez

On 28-2-2012 21:45, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> On 02/28/2012 01:56 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>  wrote:
>>> On 26-2-2012 20:42, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> ¡>>>  On 02/26/2012 07:50 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The font is fromhttp://www.thessalonica.org.ru/en/fonts-download.html .
>>>>> The log says :
>>>>> fonts>  otf prepare>  unsupported coverage contextpos for
>>>>> 'RQD ' Greek Caps after Accents Positioning-1
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas ?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I have absolutely no clue what this is supposed to mean... I'm
>>>> not even sure if the message comes from the core or Wolfgang's module?
>>>> All I can say is: Theano-Didot is also supported by the ancientgreek
>>>> module, and the font works normally here:
>>>
>>> Anyhow, we're not going to look into it if there is no proper test file
>>> showing the problem. We don't even know what features are involved.
>
> Dear Luigi, Thomas and Hans,
>
> I asked to the font creator (I had other issues with the font to report)
> and he told me that this is actually a positive kerning in the combining
> diacritical mark so they look exactly like the precombined characters
> (so that Ἄ looks like of ῎Α).
>
> I don't think it makes any sense to implement such a feature. And the
> font creator may change this to the kern feature in a future release.
>
> I hope it helps,

well, if some feature is not supported then we need to solve it but we 
can wait till we run into a better defined case next time

Hans


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