From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/82977 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Learning ConTeXt from the Ground Up Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:17:09 +0200 Message-ID: References: <79333642-1A64-4BB5-89A6-B0153EB56AA4@stien.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2096763850==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1371194248 19787 80.91.229.3 (14 Jun 2013 07:17:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 07:17:28 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jun 14 09:17:30 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UnOGH-0005Z3-5n for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:17:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D96101F2; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:17:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id m4rsfSXbzjte; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:17:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D25F101E6; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:17:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D20101E6 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:17:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id dX3gVvXvp9Gx for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:17:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-utr.mf.surf.net (filter3-utr.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.154]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9AD101E4 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:17:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by filter3-utr.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r5E7H9XA004117 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:17:14 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id d10so267130lbj.0 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 00:17:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hfaO678qY3mc/l3qGtT3CQqjqbnj+/rzTGuGlMQvLJA=; b=I5/xaotbH79XxiePuEyXT8csu69qHyVcISxl3DCBzw6wkYWVm78K/taraA1aQzkUhq B1Q/ommQkWca6yomS7KfB4lBXiTg6gJcSKAghUNFPrWQ7AArsxPsLK+ydebNaGpjR3RF 6yw1HlNBJFhJW/AUH3RpOIkFHEDPg2JkWTL5lORoHeiD7EaOW9QNvxbDcz3ammdj9qJ0 SvkBLZGQc4OvbROwo4bck7cHQdBbC2m0yPANd+e0/D8Hxw5vRX1J3jBQDlPDeRB29MlQ bs77+tNFu9FY72uCbUa/WfXhrb+KSwwWakX5kJSkkbxkapttHUmLeMp/7pPOcB50xicU GWDw== X-Received: by 10.112.164.164 with SMTP id yr4mr477985lbb.88.1371194229654; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 00:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.114.172.134 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 00:17:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <79333642-1A64-4BB5-89A6-B0153EB56AA4@stien.de> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.217.169; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 08JM7ha0e - 3f0f5a558258 - 20130614 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.154 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:82977 Archived-At: --===============2096763850== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133cb2cfa09c004df180870 --001a1133cb2cfa09c004df180870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Malte Stien wrote: > > To gather information about ConTeXt I have > - read the ConTeXt Reference Manual (http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf) > - bought a couple of the published books by Hans Hagen > - started reading the "TeX book" by Donald Knuth > > I have even briefly flirted with the idea of switching to LaTeX mainly > because it would mean having a lot more literature and a broader community > at my disposal. However, I just prefer the command structure and output of > ConTeXt. Can anyone relate to my problem? Am I on the right track? What > else should I be doing or reading to really break into ConTeXt? > > you have missed - read the source Take a problem, grep the source see how Hans addresses the problem. There are examples on how to use a feature that sometime are not explained in manuals. I think that here mkiv is better than latex (oh, well, after all it's the context ml , right ?). -- luigi --001a1133cb2cfa09c004df180870 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Malte Stien <= malte@stien.de><= /span> wrote:

To gather information about ConTeXt I have
- read the ConTeXt Reference Manual (http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf)
- bought a couple of the published books by Hans Hagen
- started reading the "TeX book" by Donald Knuth


I have even briefly flirted with the idea of switching to LaTeX mainly beca= use it would mean having a lot more literature and a broader community at m= y disposal. However, I just prefer the command structure and output of ConT= eXt. Can anyone relate to my problem? Am I on the right track? What else sh= ould I be doing or reading to really break into ConTeXt?


you have missed
-=C2=A0 = read the source
Take a problem, grep the source see how Hans = addresses the problem.
There are examples on how to use a feature that s= ometime are not explained in manuals.

I think that here mkiv is better than latex (oh, well, after all it'= ;s the context ml , right ?).



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luigi
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