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From: Sander Maijers <s.n.maijers@gmail.com>
To: Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau@cea.fr>
Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: (MKIV beta) APA citations: "et al." incorrectly written
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 23:09:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGRPH5WunjRdgruh_p4XaCsW30yMjJgkCM3g1LG-vMehYadjVw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140930203219.117d3ef1@iram-ha-003587.extra.cea.fr>


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Who can offer a short-term solution to this problem? All I want is to
reference a work, listing all of the authors' names, in APA6 format. If
necessary I'll prescribe the output format manually.

Best,

Sander Maijers

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau@cea.fr> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> These are the sort of details that we are trying to address with the
> new bibliography subsystem. The APA rules (reference: Publication
> Manual of the APA, 6th edition) give many special cases, some of which
> can be a bit tricky.
>
> The mkii/mkiv bibliography module that you are using does a good job but
> is not so sophisticated. The new mkiv rewrite is (unfortunately) still
> work in progress and is not quite "production" ready. The new subsystem
> was one topic of the recent ConTeXt meeting.
>
> You can continue to address bibliography questions to the list, or to me
> directly as I am presently working on this with Hans "in my spare
> time" (Luigi and Thomas are also actively involved). This does not
> solve your immediate problem, however.
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:19:36 +0200
> Sander Maijers <s.n.maijers@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I use
> >
> > > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4972)
> > >
> > > ConTeXt  ver: 2014.09.27 14:46 MKIV beta  fmt: 2014.9.30  int:
> > > english/english
> > >
> >
> > I want citations to respect APA rules, as described here:
> >
> http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2011/11/the-proper-use-of-et-al-in-apa-style.htm
> > l
> >
> > *Problem*: when I cite a work with three authors, "et al."  appears
> > in the first citation.
> >
> > *Example*:
> >
> > \setupbibtex[database={references/bibliographic_database},sort=author]
> > > \setuppublications[alternative=apa]
> > >
> > > \starttext
> > >     \cite[extras={, p.~3}][Zhou2012]
> > >     \cite[Zhou2012]
> > > \stoptext
> > >
> >
> > Incorrectly produces:
> >
> > > (Zhou et al., 2012, p. 3) (Zhou et al., 2012)
> > >
> >
> > Instead of:
> >
> > > (Zhou, Lyu, & King, 2012, p. 3) (Zhou, Lyu, & King, 2012)
> >
> >
> > Where the BibTeX entry is
> >
> > > @inproceedings{Zhou2012,
> > > address = {New York, New York, USA},
> > > annote = {2/5},
> > > author = {Zhou, Tom Chao and Lyu, Michael R. and King, Irwin},
> > > booktitle = {Proceedings of the 21st international conference
> > > companion on World Wide Web - WWW '12 Companion},
> > > doi = {10.1145/2187980.2188201},
> > > isbn = {9781450312301},
> > > keywords = {classification,community question answering,question
> > > routing}, month = apr,
> > > pages = {783},
> > > publisher = {ACM Press},
> > > title = {{A classification-based approach to question routing in
> > > community question answering}},
> > > url = {http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2187980.2188201},
> > > year = {2012}
> > > }
> > >
> >
> > I hope someone can help me with this.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Sander Maijers
>
>
>
> --
> Alan Braslau
> CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC
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> 91191 Gif-sur-Yvette cedex FRANCE
> tel: +33 1 69 08 73 15
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>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-06 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-30 14:19 Sander Maijers
2014-09-30 18:32 ` Alan BRASLAU
2014-09-30 18:47   ` Sander Maijers
2014-10-05  8:34     ` Thangalin
2014-10-06 21:09   ` Sander Maijers [this message]
     [not found] <mailman.56.1412631186.2277.ntg-context@ntg.nl>
2014-10-08  8:29 ` Robert Blackstone
2014-10-08 14:12   ` Sander Maijers
2014-10-15 14:51     ` Alan BRASLAU
2014-10-15 14:58     ` Alan BRASLAU
     [not found] <mailman.82.1412837520.2277.ntg-context@ntg.nl>
2014-10-09  8:03 ` Robert Blackstone

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