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SILE seems interesting, aslo Patoline. However, I think both of these are very immature, and I feel somewhat puzzled by the authors of SILE when they say that you can't do grid typesetting on TeX without horrible hacks, blatantly ignoring ConTeXt's achievements on the matter. If you want to check an alternative typesetting system, I would tell you to not look forward but backwards: groff/troff are alive and well, are very mature, and you can find a lot of documentation and tutorials, even a subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/groff/. I would recommend trying the MOM macros for groff: http://www.schaffter.ca/mom/mom-01.html --=20 Andr=C3=A9s Conrado Montoya Andi K=C3=BA andresconrado@gmail.com http://sesentaycuatro.com http://messier87.com http://chiquitico.org ---------------------------------------- Los fines no justifican los medios, porque la medida verdadera de nuestro car=C3=A1cter est=C3=A1 dada por los medios que estamos dispuestos a utiliz= ar, no por los fines que proclamamos. ---------------------------------------- =E2=80=9CYou develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation,= an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, =E2=80=98Look at that, you so= n of a bitch.=E2=80=99=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell --00000000000080217105b8022e77 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Denis.

SILE seems in= teresting, aslo Patoline. However, I think both of these are very immature,= and I feel somewhat puzzled by the authors of SILE when they say that you = can't do grid typesetting on TeX without horrible hacks, blatantly igno= ring ConTeXt's achievements on the matter.

If you want to check an alternative typesetting system, I would tell you = to not look forward but backwards: groff/troff are alive and well, are very= mature, and you can find a lot of documentation and tutorials, even a subr= eddit: https://www.reddit.com/r= /groff/. I would recommend trying the MOM macros for groff: http://www.schaffter.ca/mom/mom-01= .html

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Andr=C3=A9s Conrado Montoya
Andi K=C3=BA
andresconrado@gmail.com
http://sesentaycuatro.com<= /a>
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Los fines no justifican los medios, porque la medida verdadera de nu= estro car=C3=A1cter est=C3=A1 dada por los medios que estamos dispuestos a = utilizar, no por los fines que proclamamos.
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=E2=80=9CYou develop an instant global consciousness, a = people orientation,=20 an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international=20 politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of=20 the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, =E2=80=98Lo= ok at that, you son of a bitch.=E2=80=99=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 Apollo 14 astronaut = Edgar Mitchell

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