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From: Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Cc: Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Why are back-to-back \autocite commands not working in ConTeXt-SBL?
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 12:50:23 -0500	[thread overview]
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That may work with something like

```
\cite[loctext={{2},{2}}][{na2006,clark1989}]
```

or

```
\autocite[{{\loc[2]},{\loc[2]}}]{{na2006,clark1989}}
```

(I know that the ConTeXt \cite command supports multicites with
comma-separated entries, but I forget exactly what the expected syntax
looks like.)

Joey

On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 10:14 AM Denis Maier via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> biblatex has special multicite commands=> e.g. autocites. could that be
> used in that case?
>
> Denis
>
> Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> hat am 24.12.2021
> 15:43 geschrieben:
>
>
> Joel,
>
> Thanks for mentioning this! I think I've run into the same issue before,
> but I wasn't sure how I should go about fixing it, so this might be a good
> place to get suggestions from others.
>
> The \autocite, \inlinecite, \parencite, and \footcite helper commands are
> intended to handle trailing punctuation intelligently (in order to do
> things like move punctuation after a footnote citation before the footnote
> marker), so they treat the next character after the command as a "hidden"
> parameter. This works as expected if the next character is a punctuation
> character or something like a \blank command, but if it's something like a
> \section command (or another \autocite command, as you've discovered), then
> this causes problems.
>
> That said, I think you should be able to get your ConTeXt to compile if
> you follow your \autocite command with punctuation or some form of
> whitespace (which is why a double newline works, as you've discovered,
> while a single newline does not).
>
> I'd like to keep the intelligent trailing punctuation adjustment feature
> if possible, but this problem definitely needs to be fixed. If anyone has
> any suggestions, I welcome them! My hope is that this can be resolved with
> a simple check.
>
> Joey
>
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 9:37 AM Joel via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> wrote:
>
> I am using the ConTeXt-SBL module to handle the citations in my article.
> Using the plain \cite[na2006] command has worked fine.
>
> But there are some situations where I want the footnote to include page
> number details. I tried using \cite[extra=2][na2006], but that doesn't seem
> compatible with ConTeXt-SBL. I checked the documentation, and if I
> understand correctly, I should use the autocite command to add page numbers
> to my citation? Like this:
>
>     \autocite[{\loc[2]}][]{na2006}
>
> This solution works in 95% of cases, but when I need to cite another book
> immediately after that, it throws up errors:
>
>
> This won't compile:
>
>     \autocite[{\loc[2]}][]{na2006}
>     \autocite[{\loc[2]}][]{clark1989}
>
> This won't compile:
>
>     \autocite[{\loc[2]}][]{na2006}%
> %
>    \autocite[{\loc[2]}][]{clark1989}
>
> This also won't compile:
>
>     \autocite[{\loc[2]}][]{na2006}\autocite[{\loc[2]}][]{clark1989}
>
> After much trial and error, I found this will compile:
>
>     \autocite[{\loc[2]}][]{na2006}
>
>     \autocite[{\loc[2]}][]{clark1989}
>
> The problem with this last example, is if my citations appear within the
> paragraph, then I end up with a paragraph break in the wrong place!
>
> Here is my minimum working example, which won't compile unless I add a
> blank line between the two citations.
>
> \usemodule[publ-imp-sbl]
> \startbuffer [bib]
>
> @Article{na2006,
> title={Volcanoes \word{of} New Mexico},
> year={2006},
> journal={New Mexico Earth Matters},
> publisher={New Mexico Bureau \word{of} Geology \word{and} Mineral
> Resources},
> volume={6},
> number={1},
> location={Socorro, New Mexico}
> }
>
> @Book{clark1989,
> author = {Clark, William},
> title = {Railroads \word{and} railroad towns \word{in} New Mexico},
> publisher = {New Mexico Magazine},
> year = {1989},
> address = {Albuquerque, New Mexico},
> isbn = {9780937206126}
> }
>
> \stopbuffer
>
> \usebtxdataset[bib.buffer]
>
> \setupbtx[dataset=default]
> \usebtxdefinitions[sbl]
> \setupbtx[sbl]
>
> \starttext
>
>     \autocite[{\loc[2]}][]{na2006}
>     \autocite[{\loc[3]}][]{clark1989}
>
>
>     \startchapter[title=Bibliography]
>         \placelistofpublications
>     \stopchapter
>
> \stoptext
>
> Is the autocite command the wrong tool for what I need? How can I place
> citations right next to each other, but also include page number
> information with ConTeXt-SBL?
>
> --Joel
>
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      reply	other threads:[~2021-12-24 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1841168518.669973.1640356618609.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
2021-12-24 14:36 ` Joel via ntg-context
2021-12-24 14:43   ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
2021-12-24 14:46     ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
2021-12-24 15:14     ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
2021-12-24 17:50       ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context [this message]

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