On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 5:58 PM Joey McCollum = <jmccollum20140511@gmail.= com> wrote:

Interestingly, if I remove the contents of the btx:sbl:= inline:shorthand command and paste them inline as the third argument of \ab= breviation, then it works as expected:

```
\expanded{\abbreviatio= n[\currentbtxtag]{\btxdoif{shorthand}{\doifinsetelse{\btxflush{type}}{plain= ttitle, plainshorthand}{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxstartstyleandcolor[sbl:\s= !list:title:\currentbtxcategory]\btxusecommand[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbt= xcategory]{\btxflush{shorthand}}\btxstopstyleandcolor}}}{\textcite[alternat= ive=3Dlistsubcite,lefttext=3D,righttext=3D][\currentbtxtag]}}
```
But obviously, this is much less readable. So if there is a more concise s= olution that applies expansion control to \texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:sho= rthand}, I'd love to know it!

Thanks!

=
Joey

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:05 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum201405= 11@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, I had a follow-up question sooner than I= thought! Enclosing the \abbreviation command doesn't quite work when I= want to typeset the abbreviated form with a \texdefinition, as follows:
```
\texdefinition{btx:sbl:doifownfield} {shorthand} {
=C2=A0 \e= xpanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shortha= nd}}{\textcite[alternative=3Dlistsubcite,lefttext=3D,righttext=3D][\current= btxtag]}}
}
```

Thankfully, everything else gets rendered as e= xpected. But why is the \texdefinition=C2=A0not expanding? If it helps, I&#= 39;ve included it below:

```
\starttexdefinition btx:sbl:inline:s= horthand
=C2=A0 \btxdoif {shorthand} {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 % If the entry i= s of type plaintitle or plainshorthand, then do not apply formatting to its= shorthand
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \doifinsetelse{\btxflush{type}}{plainttitle, pl= ainshorthand} {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 \btxflush{shorthand}
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 } {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 \btxstartstyleandcolor[sbl:\s!list:title:\c= urrentbtxcategory]
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 \btxusecommand[sbl:\s!lis= t:title:\currentbtxcategory]{
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 \btxflu= sh{shorthand}% set the shorthand according to the current category
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 }
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 \btxstopstyleandcolor=C2=A0 =C2=A0 }
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \btxcomma
=C2=A0 }
\stoptexdefiniti= on
```

Do I have to apply expansion control somewhere else or in = some other way?

Joey

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 2:35 PM= Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote:
All right, I think I s= ee what I did wrong; I just needed to enclose the whole \abbreviation comma= nd in an \expanded command as follows:

```
\startsetups btx:sbl:c= ite:short
=C2=A0 ...
=C2=A0 \btxdoif {shorthand} {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \= expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxflush{titl= e}}}
=C2=A0 }
=C2=A0 ...
\stopsetups
```

It looks lik= e passing the macro \currentbtxtag as the tag for the abbreviation works fi= ne. And if I redefine the abbreviations synonyms list as follows, I can use= \inshort[\currentbtxtag]:

```
\definesynonyms[abbreviation][abbr= eviations][\infull][\inshort]
```

I'll add more t= o the thread if I run into any problems making this more complex!

Joey

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 12:35 PM Joey McCollum <= ;jmccollum= 20140511@gmail.com> wrote:
(Quick note for anyone following this th= read: I've figured out how to implement different typesetting rules for= list, inline, and short-form citations; you can see how I've done this= in the publ-imp-sbl.mkvi file in the=C2=A0https://github.com/jjmccollum/conte= xt-sbl repository.)

I have another question related to abbreviat= ions/synonyms in connection with bibliographies. When a bibliographic entry= has a "shorthand" field and I cite it using \cite[alternative=3D= short], I would like to add its shorthand to the abbreviations list, with a= longer citation as its "in-full" form. My first thought was that= I could accomplish this with something like the following:

```
\= startsetups btx:sbl:cite:short
=C2=A0 ...
=C2=A0 \btxdoif {shorthand}= {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\bt= xflush{title}}
=C2=A0 }
=C2=A0 ...
\stopsetups
```

But = even if I invoke \placelistofabbreviations with the "criterium=3Dall&q= uot; option, nothing appears in the list.

In some = ways, this issue is related to the now-resolved issue "Which way to ty= pe greek letters in synonym list?" from 2010. The problem is that in t= his case, I have to use a macro even in the first input to=C2=A0\abbreviati= on (in brackets), because I don't know what it is in advance. In additi= on, if the second and third inputs to \abbreviation (in curly braces) are n= ot expanded until the list is printed, then they will be empty/undefined at= the time when they are needed.

I'm not as fam= iliar with how to deal with expansion problems, so I could use someone'= s expertise here. Is=C2=A0there a simple way to define an abbreviation usin= g the expanded values of macros as above? And is there a way to invoke an a= bbreviation/synonym at this level of abstraction? (Something like \inshort[= \currentbtxtag]?)

Thanks!

Joey

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:11 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.= com> wrote:
Just continuing to talk my way through the inner workin= gs of the ConTeXt Publication modules. It looks like three "long"= citation forms are defined in publ-imp-cite.mkvi:

\startsetups btx:cite:= listelement
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \ifx\currentbtx= first\empty
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:\s!emp= ty}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \else
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\texdefinition {\s= !btx:\s!cite:inject} {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\btxcite= reference
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\currentbtxfirst
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fi
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastset= up{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
\stopsetups

\startsetups \s!btx:\s!c= ite:entry
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \btxhandleciteentr= y
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
\stopsetups
<= br>\startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \startfootnote
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{btx:cite:entry}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \st= opfootnote
\stopsetups

Intuitively, I would expect= =C2=A0btx:cite:listelement [why not \s!btx:\s!cite:listelement?] to handle = rendering a bibliographic entry for the bibliography proper (i.e., the list= typically placed at the end of a document), while=C2=A0\s!btx:\s!cite:entr= y would handle in-text citations. The third setup,=C2=A0\s!btx:\s!cite:foot= note, simply renders the "entry"-style citation in a footnote.
But as far as I can tell, the "listelement" setu= p is never used outside of publ-imp-cite.mkvi. Only the "entry" s= etup appears to be used. Meanwhile, the=C2=A0\btxcitereference=C2=A0and=C2= =A0 \btxhandleciteentry=C2=A0macros (invoked in these setups) appear to be defi= ned in publ-ini.mkiv:

\unexpanded\def\btx_cite_reference_inject
= =C2=A0 {\ifconditional\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
=C2=A0 =C2=A0\else<= br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\dontleavehmode
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\iftrialtypes= etting \else
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\ifx\currentbtxbacklink\empty=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0% can be made empty when combining autho= r / year
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\else\ifnum\currentbtxbacklink>\z= erocount
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\btx_cite_reference_inject_in= deed
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\settrue\c_btx_cite_reference_inj= ected
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\fi\fi
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\fi
= =C2=A0 \fi}

...

\let\= btxcitereference\btx_cite_reference_inject

...
=
\unexpanded\def\btxhandleciteentry
=C2=A0 {\dontleavehmode
=C2=A0= =C2=A0\begingroup
=C2=A0 =C2=A0\def\currentbtxcitealternative{entry}%=C2=A0 =C2=A0\setbtxparameterset\s!cite\currentbtxcitealternative % needs= checking
=C2=A0 =C2=A0\btxcitereference
=C2=A0 =C2=A0\btx_entry_inje= ct
=C2=A0 =C2=A0\endgroup}

My next = step will be to figure out what these are doing, but I'm still not sure= if the module accommodates rendering in-text "entry" citations d= ifferently than citations in the list.

Joey
<= /div>
O= n Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:55 AM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> w= rote:
Henning's suggestion for abbreviations should work fine for th= at issue. I could simply use the shorthand in the "series" and &q= uot;journal" fields and set up the appropriate \abbreviation calls in = the document or environment.

As for the larger issue of bibliographi= es, I've started working on publ-imp-sbl.lua and publ-imp-sbl.mkvi file= s. I knew I would need this for my own project soon, and I felt it would be= useful to myself and the ConTeXt community if I could at least get a rudim= entary version working. I'm presently using the reference for examples = from the SBL Handbook of Style, 2nd edition, available at=C2=A0https://github.com/dcpurton/biblatex-= sbl/blob/master/test/biblatex-sbl-examples.ref.txt.

= Like you say, some parts are tricky. SBL uses "entry"-style citat= ions by default and doesn't seem to make use of other common alternativ= es (such as "authoryear"). I can think of some existing alternati= ves that might get used in specific cases (e.g., "author", "= title"), but the recommended=C2=A0shorthand has the form "shortau= thor, shorttitle" (i.e., the last name(s) of the author(s) only, follo= wed by a comma and a shortened form of the title as specified in the "= shorttitle" field). I could make this the sbl style's implementati= on of the "short" alternative, since the LaTeX-style bracketed nu= mber references are foreign to SBL style anyway, but if would be preferable= just to introduce another alternative (something like "authortitle&qu= ot;), then I could also try to do that.

For my immediate purposes, I= won't need much more than the=C2=A0@book, @article, @inbook, and=C2=A0= @incollection=C2=A0entries, so my focus will be on getting those right, but= if anyone is interested in helping, I'll gladly take help. (But it wou= ld probably be better to discuss the details in a separate e-mail thread.)<= /div>

Joey

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:12 AM Denis Mai= er via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von Henning > Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
> Gesendet: Samstag, 7. August 2021 22:40
> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Short forms and abbreviations in bibliograp= hy
>
>
>
> > Am 07.08.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Joey McCollum via ntg-context <= ntg-
> context@ntg.nl= >:
> >
> > A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS"= ; alongside "Linguistic
> Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other journal/= series
> abbreviations).
>
> Regarding abbreviations have a look at
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/de= finesynonyms
>
> It should be as easy as
>
> \abbreviation{LSAWS}{Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic}
>
> The full name of \quote{LSAWS} is \infull{LSAWS}.
>
> \placelistofabbreviations
>
>
> I had a case where mostly abbreviations were used in the text but the = full name
> should appear in the index.
> I can provide the setup (including Lua functions), if it might help yo= u.
>
>
> Can=E2=80=99t help with bibliographies, sorry.

SBL is a tricky beast anyway. There were some discussions regarding impleme= nting Chicago Manual of Style a couple of weeks ago. Develelopments on that= front could also be useful for SBL. Don't know what came out of this t= hough.

Denis

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