On Wed, Oc= t 6, 2021 at 12:35 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote:

(Quick note for any= one following this thread: I've figured out how to implement different = typesetting rules for list, inline, and short-form citations; you can see h= ow I've done this in the publ-imp-sbl.mkvi file in the=C2=A0https://github= .com/jjmccollum/context-sbl repository.)

I have another question= related to abbreviations/synonyms in connection with bibliographies. When = a bibliographic entry has a "shorthand" field and I cite it using= \cite[alternative=3Dshort], I would like to add its shorthand to the abbre= viations list, with a longer citation as its "in-full" form. My f= irst thought was that I could accomplish this with something like the follo= wing:

```
\startsetups btx:sbl:cite:short
=C2=A0 ...
=C2=A0= \btxdoif {shorthand} {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btx= flush{shorthand}}{\btxflush{title}}
=C2=A0 }

=C2=A0 ...
\stopsetu= ps
```

But even if I invoke \placelistofabbreviations with the &q= uot;criterium=3Dall" option, nothing appears in the list.

In some ways, this issue is related to the now-resolved issue = "Which way to type greek letters in synonym list?" from 2010. The= problem is that in this case, I have to use a macro even in the first inpu= t to=C2=A0\abbreviation (in brackets), because I don't know what it is = in advance. In addition, if the second and third inputs to \abbreviation (i= n curly braces) are not expanded until the list is printed, then they will = be empty/undefined at the time when they are needed.

I'm not as familiar with how to deal with expansion problems, so I c= ould use someone's expertise here. Is=C2=A0there a simple way to define= an abbreviation using the expanded values of macros as above? And is there= a way to invoke an abbreviation/synonym at this level of abstraction? (Som= ething like \inshort[\currentbtxtag]?)

Thanks!

Joey

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:11 PM Joey McColl= um <jmc= collum20140511@gmail.com> wrote:

Just continuing to talk my way thr= ough the inner workings of the ConTeXt Publication modules. It looks like t= hree "long" citation forms are defined in publ-imp-cite.mkvi:
=
\= startsetups btx:cite:listelement
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite= :concat}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 \ifx\currentbtxfirst\empty
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s= !btx:\s!cite:\s!empty}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \else
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0\texdefinition {\s!btx:\s!cite:inject} {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0\btxcitereference
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= \currentbtxfirst
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fi
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
\stopsetups

\s= tartsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:entry
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:= concat}
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 \btxhandleciteentry
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttex= t}
\stopsetups

\startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 \startfootnote
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 \fastsetup{btx:cite:entry= }
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \stopfootnote
\stopsetups

Intuiti= vely, I would expect=C2=A0btx:cite:listelement [why not \s!btx:\s!cite:list= element?] to handle rendering a bibliographic entry for the bibliography pr= oper (i.e., the list typically placed at the end of a document), while=C2= =A0\s!btx:\s!cite:entry would handle in-text citations. The third setup,=C2= =A0\s!btx:\s!cite:footnote, simply renders the "entry"-style cita= tion in a footnote.

But as far as I can tell, the "= listelement" setup is never used outside of publ-imp-cite.mkvi. Only t= he "entry" setup appears to be used. Meanwhile, the=C2=A0\btxcite= reference=C2=A0and=C2=A0 \btxhandleciteentry=C2=A0macros (invoked in these setups) appear to be defi= ned in publ-ini.mkiv:

\unexpanded\def\btx_cite_reference_inject
= =C2=A0 {\ifconditional\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
=C2=A0 =C2=A0\else<= br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\dontleavehmode
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\iftrialtypes= etting \else
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\ifx\currentbtxbacklink\empty=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0% can be made empty when combining autho= r / year
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\else\ifnum\currentbtxbacklink>\z= erocount
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\btx_cite_reference_inject_in= deed
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\settrue\c_btx_cite_reference_inj= ected
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\fi\fi
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\fi
= =C2=A0 \fi}

...

\let\= btxcitereference\btx_cite_reference_inject

...
=
\unexpanded\def\btxhandleciteentry
=C2=A0 {\dontleavehmode
=C2=A0= =C2=A0\begingroup
=C2=A0 =C2=A0\def\currentbtxcitealternative{entry}%=C2=A0 =C2=A0\setbtxparameterset\s!cite\currentbtxcitealternative % needs= checking
=C2=A0 =C2=A0\btxcitereference
=C2=A0 =C2=A0\btx_entry_inje= ct
=C2=A0 =C2=A0\endgroup}

My next = step will be to figure out what these are doing, but I'm still not sure= if the module accommodates rendering in-text "entry" citations d= ifferently than citations in the list.

Joey
<= /div>
O= n Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:55 AM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> w= rote:
Henning's suggestion for abbreviations should work fine for th= at issue. I could simply use the shorthand in the "series" and &q= uot;journal" fields and set up the appropriate \abbreviation calls in = the document or environment.

As for the larger issue of bibliographi= es, I've started working on publ-imp-sbl.lua and publ-imp-sbl.mkvi file= s. I knew I would need this for my own project soon, and I felt it would be= useful to myself and the ConTeXt community if I could at least get a rudim= entary version working. I'm presently using the reference for examples = from the SBL Handbook of Style, 2nd edition, available at=C2=A0https://github.com/dcpurton/biblatex-= sbl/blob/master/test/biblatex-sbl-examples.ref.txt.

= Like you say, some parts are tricky. SBL uses "entry"-style citat= ions by default and doesn't seem to make use of other common alternativ= es (such as "authoryear"). I can think of some existing alternati= ves that might get used in specific cases (e.g., "author", "= title"), but the recommended=C2=A0shorthand has the form "shortau= thor, shorttitle" (i.e., the last name(s) of the author(s) only, follo= wed by a comma and a shortened form of the title as specified in the "= shorttitle" field). I could make this the sbl style's implementati= on of the "short" alternative, since the LaTeX-style bracketed nu= mber references are foreign to SBL style anyway, but if would be preferable= just to introduce another alternative (something like "authortitle&qu= ot;), then I could also try to do that.

For my immediate purposes, I= won't need much more than the=C2=A0@book, @article, @inbook, and=C2=A0= @incollection=C2=A0entries, so my focus will be on getting those right, but= if anyone is interested in helping, I'll gladly take help. (But it wou= ld probably be better to discuss the details in a separate e-mail thread.)<= /div>

Joey

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:12 AM Denis Mai= er via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von Henning > Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
> Gesendet: Samstag, 7. August 2021 22:40
> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Short forms and abbreviations in bibliograp= hy
>
>
>
> > Am 07.08.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Joey McCollum via ntg-context <= ntg-
> context@ntg.nl= >:
> >
> > A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS"= ; alongside "Linguistic
> Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other journal/= series
> abbreviations).
>
> Regarding abbreviations have a look at
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/de= finesynonyms
>
> It should be as easy as
>
> \abbreviation{LSAWS}{Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic}
>
> The full name of \quote{LSAWS} is \infull{LSAWS}.
>
> \placelistofabbreviations
>
>
> I had a case where mostly abbreviations were used in the text but the = full name
> should appear in the index.
> I can provide the setup (including Lua functions), if it might help yo= u.
>
>
> Can=E2=80=99t help with bibliographies, sorry.

SBL is a tricky beast anyway. There were some discussions regarding impleme= nting Chicago Manual of Style a couple of weeks ago. Develelopments on that= front could also be useful for SBL. Don't know what came out of this t= hough.

Denis

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