From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/77557 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Shriramana Sharma Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Small caps? 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On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:04 AM, Marco wrote: > My guess is that DejaVu Sans Condensed has no small caps. That's why > you get the unexpected result. LibO might fake the small caps, which > should usually be avoided, since it often leads to typographically > bad results. If you need caps, select a font which provides them. Hi -- is there absolutely no way for obtaining these "fake small caps" in ConTeXT? The thread http://www.tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2008-July/010325.html seems to contain some hints but they are fotr for LaTeX. I don't want to switch to LaTeX just for this. Basically I'm trying to move away from wordprocessors, and while I'm not looking for meaningless effects like "walking ants" (from MS Word) to be provided by TeX macro packages, faux smallcaps (and oblique and bold) is not an unreasonable thing to expect IMO. Not everyone is a typographer to produce the appropriate fine-typography glyphs for their favourite font to cater to a particular style. Why should the system impose "super-duper" typography on users when they are willing to settle for less? -- Shriramana Sharma ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________