From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/73175 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chris Lott Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: ConTeXt-- does it make sense for my needs? 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Back then ConTeXt was quite new, so I didn't mess with it much. Now I'm back and sick of Word/etc for the documents I need to produce as print/pdf and for interaction with colleagues. What I can't figure out is if ConTeXt makes the most sense... and if it does, I have a few questions... 1) My work is primarily in the humanities and end-user technologies, with small amounts of coding. So mathematics isn't an issue. I do a fair amount of highly academic writing (aka: many sections, citations [handling this in a sensible way is really important], footnotes) with the occasional need for charts, graphs, and photos. In other words, I'm not doing the kind of layout one might associate with InDesign or the like. I also write many paper letters (personal), poetry, fiction, essays, and the like. 2) That said, I (obviously) have a keen interest in typography, and that includes wanting to use some particular typefaces... I've paid good money for many of them, so why not? 3) PDF is my primary medium of exchange, though I would like to efficiently exchange docs with colleagues, which might mean getting them into something they can open with their beloved Microsoft Word... is there an RTF output for ConTeXt? this isn't super-high on my list, but it would be nice. 4) How about X/HTML? this is my lowest level need but, again, it would be nice. 5) I generally use a Mac for everything, but I am pretty comfortable in the shell. I've done a bit of programming in PHP. I don't mind monkeying around, and I am interested in creating layouts that suit my needs, but digging into internals is not for me. I used Emacs extensively for years, now using mostly Vim (MacVim) and a variety of GUI editors depending on what I had for breakfast that day. So, do you think ConTeXt makes more sense than LaTeX? And *what* is the deal with xetex? It seems to be the easiest way for accessing all my fonts, but it also hasn't been updated for years and, since it is tied to an old version of ConTeXt (as far as I can tell) it doesn't seem like much of a winner. Finally, if ConTeXt is the way to go, are there any fairly comprehensive materials in one place for learning to use it? What I find on the wiki seems to go from basic to advanced without a lot of in between, and what I find on the web seems a bit fragmented. but at this point my head is in a whirl, so I might just be missing some obvious material. Thanks in advance... c -- Chris Lott ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________