From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/82612 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mikael P. Sundqvist" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: partial derivatives with bonum/pagella font Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: <519C9774.2060209@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0611174984==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1369217484 19916 80.91.229.3 (22 May 2013 10:11:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 10:11:24 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed May 22 12:11:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uf60x-0006g3-TT for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FE7101E7; Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id jRcDL-QMvpTM; Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D6D101E4; Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A08101E4 for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kLguI0-LDBw6 for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (filter4-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.72]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B27D101E0 for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) by filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r4MAZX3F021437 for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 12:35:33 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id wn6so1984284obc.8 for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 03:11:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZE0l7s7fiuQAOwfiXkSz0HD9dHlfmkOZ0zFHvKYfZTs=; b=tFnkKRqYodhPrLD404AGYfoqsd0AI2YStzftwj3BmFB0zhaq6jDTB80v6a2Y9yM3Kw K9NN+QkePIKAitP0aTbu7RWp1DWIzqx4TVI8noDRC1cLSjhO0n1Dfoc42RMa1TrOXQQD H2IYb1xdHbhkmB281L+cp4P5ZnzSPjZnlDCz4yvOzk1btIBh8JSOfZG111cGwJMpNBRi 0o+GEDQhkYvkuWw8GPIE2e7Vycu1V9Xlioosxz7T/z4k+NTeBA9PrFzUHymwsE6Z3vXu /i+EJJv2D1lSF0VQzr7v3DFBnnFcRY9NEGEDsqnXuwsPdIW2cutvLJCJ1oSoZHWx2j8N AA+w== X-Received: by 10.60.60.104 with SMTP id g8mr4010906oer.125.1369217461070; Wed, 22 May 2013 03:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.76.69.202 with HTTP; Wed, 22 May 2013 03:11:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <519C9774.2060209@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231; country=US X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 01JCWzxpr - bd385eb0eaeb - 20130522 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:82612 Archived-At: --===============0611174984== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149cb8e63334604dd4bc892 --089e0149cb8e63334604dd4bc892 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OK! is there a quick fix/hack that somehow allows me to get it look "almost like it should" in a small document today with bonum? I'll give a presentation tomorrow, and if this is not the case I'll change the notation of partial derivative to the one using \partial instead... /Mikael On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 5/22/2013 10:46 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The following examples give wrong space. There is a space between the >> prime and the subscripted x. If I do not load the bonum font it just >> looks as it should. >> >> \setupbodyfont[bonum] >> \starttext >> $f'_x$, $f_x'$ $f\prime_x$. >> \stoptext >> >> (it does not look good with the pagella font either...) >> >> Any ideas? >> > > cambria is the benchmark ... indeed bonum looks somewhat weird (also > because the f is rather tightly bounded; the same with pagella) > > (there are some primes-*.tex test files in the test suite) > > the primes mechanism is somewhat non-trivial as ' is not really the prime > symbol and some additional parsing / hackery happens; also, traditionally > primes in tex sit on the baseline and need to be lifted > > one problem is that texgyre math is still beta so messing around at the > tex end will interfere with improvements > > Hans > > ------------------------------**------------------------------**----- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ------------------------------**------------------------------**----- > ______________________________**______________________________** > _______________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/** > listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/**projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ______________________________**______________________________** > _______________________ > --089e0149cb8e63334604dd4bc892 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK!

is there a quick fix/hack that = somehow allows me to get it look "almost like it should" in a sma= ll document today with bonum? I'll give a presentation tomorrow, and if= this is not the case I'll change the notation of partial derivative to= the one using \partial instead...

/Mikael


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl&= gt; wrote:
On 5= /22/2013 10:46 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
Hi all,

The following examples give wrong space. There is a space between the
prime and the subscripted x. If I do not load the bonum font it just
looks as it should.

\setupbodyfont[bonum]
\starttext
$f'_x$, $f_x'$ $f\prime_x$.
\stoptext

(it does not look good with the pagella font either...)

Any ideas?

cambria is the benchmark ... indeed bonum looks somewhat weird (also becaus= e the f is rather tightly bounded; the same with pagella)

(there are some primes-*.tex test files in the test suite)

the primes mechanism is somewhat non-trivial as ' is not really the pri= me symbol and some additional parsing / hackery happens; also, traditionall= y primes in tex sit on the baseline and need to be lifted

one problem is that texgyre math is still beta so messing around at the tex= end will interfere with improvements

Hans

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