On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7/31/2017 8:02 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> >>> On 7/31/2017 11:21 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" >>>>>> >>>>> >: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Hans, >>>>>> >>>>>> now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new >>>>>> manner, >>>>>> I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie file the >>>>>> kerning >>>>>> between characters, in particular primes and the left >>>>>> parenthesis? >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried >>>>>> >>>>>> kernpairs = { >>>>>> [0x2032] = {[0x0028] = -1000, }, -- prime and ( >>>>>> }, >>>>>> >>>>>> but that does not seem to have any effect. >>>>>> >>>>>> The pre-1.05 modification >>>>>> >>>>>> dimensions = { >>>>>> default = { >>>>>> [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, >>>>>> [0x2032] = { xoffset = 50, width = 290 }, -- >>>>>> prime >>>>>> [0x2033] = { xoffset = 50, width = 690 }, -- >>>>>> double >>>>>> prime >>>>>> [0x2034] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1090}, -- >>>>>> triple >>>>>> prime >>>>>> [0x2057] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1490}, -- >>>>>> quadruple prime >>>>>> }, >>>>>> }, >>>>>> >>>>>> (which is a non-optimal way of solving this issue since it has >>>>>> side >>>>>> effects) does not change anything anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, is there now a way to do this cleanly now that the mechanism >>>>>> is >>>>>> changed? >>>>>> >>>>>> /Mikael >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> should I interpret the silence that this is currently not possible, or >>>>>> that you, Hans, is completely fed up with this subject? :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> you rule out the possibility that i have other things to do >>>>> >>>>> anyway, use >>>>> >>>>> 0xFE932 >>>>> >>>>> etc instead as primes get remapped >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >>>>> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >>>>> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry >>>>> to >>>>> the Wiki! >>>>> >>>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >>>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>>>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >>>>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >>>>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm sorry but I cannot get it to work. >>>> >>>> %%% my local lucida-opentype-math.lfg, located in the same directory >>>> as the tex file (and loaded) >>>> ----- kern_250 = { bottomright = { { kern = -250 } }, force = true } >>>> >>>> local function FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap(value,target,original) >>>> local o = original.mathparameters.RadicalVerticalGap -- 50 >>>> return 2 * o * target.parameters.factor >>>> end >>>> >>>> return { >>>> name = "lucida-opentype-math", >>>> version = "1.00", >>>> comment = "Goodies that complement lucida opentype.", >>>> author = "Hans Hagen", >>>> copyright = "ConTeXt development team", >>>> mathematics = { >>>> parameters = { >>>> RadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap = >>>> FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap, >>>> }, >>>> kernpairs = { >>>> [0x1D44E] = {[0x1D44F] = 1000,}, -- 𝑎𝑏 demo >>>> [0xFE932] = {[0x0028] = 1000,} -- remapped prime and ( >>>> }, >>>> } >>>> } >>>> %%% >>>> >>>> %%% the tex file >>>> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot] >>>> \setupmathematics[kernpairs=yes] >>>> >>>> \starttext >>>> $f'(x)ab$ >>>> \stoptext >>>> %%% >>>> >>>> The result is attached. It works ok for the pair ab, but not for prime >>>> and (. Is the ( also remapped (while greping for it in the source, I >>>> could not find any clue). >>>> >>>> Maybe it is better to ping the maintainers of the font? >>> >>> >>> just change the dimensions >>> >>> dimensions = { >>> default = { -- experimental values >>> [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, >>> -- [0x2032] = { yoffset = -10 }, >>> [0xFE932] = { width = 200 }, >>> [0xFE933] = { width = 500 }, >>> [0xFE934] = { width = 800 }, >>> }, >>> }, >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >>> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >>> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >>> the Wiki! >>> >>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> Dear Hans, >> >> thank you, that solution worked well! May I suggest to add something like >> >> dimensions = { >> default = { >> [0xFE932] = { width = 150 }, -- prime >> [0xFE933] = { width = 435 }, -- double prime >> [0xFE934] = { width = 720 }, -- triple prime >> [0xFE957] = { width = 1005 }, -- quadruple prime >> }, >> }, >> >> (or the values 200, 500, 800, 1100 if you prefer) to the font goodie >> file for lucida in the distribution? > > too narrow might clash with superscripts .. did you do more tests than the ( > ? > > there are also reverse primes > > Hans > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I think your values look better for (f') but mine for f'(x). Compare the two attached files. I have browsed my ~270 pages math document, but so far I only see either primes alone or primes with ( after, and both look OK to me. I don't know how reverse primes are supposed to look or to be used, so there I am of no help. /Mikael