From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/86268 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mikael P. 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Sundqvist wrote: > > > > I do not agree with you. It is not so important to have the same syntax > as > > in LaTeX (exception: it would be nice to get double bars from \| since it > > does not make sense to have \| yield a single bar since | does) > > That is the Plain TeX syntax for double bar FWIW. > > Regards, > Khaled > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > Indeed, and I think that in all I have written (I don't know plain TeX so well) above one can insert "plain TeX" instead of LaTeX. I can add that I think that the horizontal space between the integral sign and the function is too large. Compare with plain TeX/LaTeX. Maybe that comes from having smaller size of the limits? I hope that you dont get me wrong. I would like to use ConTeXt more than I do today. But at the moment it just don't give the expected output when it comes to math. Are there any other mathematicians on this list that can raise their voices and tell what they think? Best regards, Mikael --001a11343b4ef5bff604f24abb99 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Khaled Hosny <khaled= hosny@eglug.org> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 02:4= 0:18PM +0100, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
>
> I do not agree with you. It is not so important to have the same synta= x as
> in LaTeX (exception: it would be nice to get double bars from \| since= it
> does not make sense to have \| yield a single bar since | does)

That is the Plain TeX syntax for double bar FWIW.

Regards,
Khaled

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Indeed,= and I think that in all I have written (I don't know plain TeX so well= ) above one can insert "plain TeX" instead of LaTeX.

I can add that I think that the horizontal space= between the integral sign and the function is too large. Compare with plai= n TeX/LaTeX. Maybe that comes from having smaller size of the limits?

I hope that you dont get me wrong. I w= ould like to use ConTeXt more than I do today. But at the moment it just do= n't give the expected output when it comes to math. Are there any other= mathematicians on this list that can raise their voices and tell what they= think?

Best regards, Mikael

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