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If the float does not fit on the page, it > appears instead in the top of the next page. Can I force it to be in the > bottom of the next page? That is, can I setup a float that is always at t= he > bottom of the page? I hope what I ask makes sense. > > AFAIK location=3Dbottom is always unreliable, it=E2=80=99s a known limita= tion and > you can=E2=80=99t change that. > > Do you need it as a float (with caption and all)? Otherwise you could try > absolute placement with a layer. > > Hraban > Thank you for your mail, Hraban! It is good to know that the bottom key might be unreliable. I wanted to be able to put floats in bottom, with (unnumbered) captions on top in margin. A bit dual to the mail I sent to the list about topfigures with captions in the margin. As you say, maybe using layers is the best way to obtain what I want. I'm not sure, though, how to place a figure in a layer at the bottom and to prohibit text to go there. /Mikael --000000000000ea3a3505af2d0905 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Den l=C3=B6r 12 sep. 2020 22:04Henning Hraban Ramm <= ;texml@fiee.net> skrev:
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> Am 07.09.2020 um 14:08 schrieb Mikael Sundqvist <mickep@gmail.com= >:
>
> I'm defining a bottomfigure with default=3Dbottom, but it does not= always seem to work (example below). If the float does not fit on the page= , it appears instead in the top of the next page. Can I force it to be in t= he bottom of the next page? That is, can I setup a float that is always at = the bottom of the page? I hope what I ask makes sense.

AFAIK location=3Dbottom is always unreliable, it=E2=80=99s a known limitati= on and you can=E2=80=99t change that.

Do you need it as a float (with caption and all)? Otherwise you could try a= bsolute placement with a layer.

Hraban

Thank you for your mail, Hraban! It is good to know that the bottom k= ey might be unreliable.

= I wanted to be able to put floats in bottom, with (unnumbered) captions on = top in margin. A bit dual to the mail I sent to the list about topfigures w= ith captions in the margin. As you say, maybe using layers is the best way = to obtain what I want. I'm not sure, though, how to place a figure in a= layer at the bottom and to prohibit text to go there.

/Mikael
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