Hi Mikael,

Basically, I see your problem with ConTeXts handling of math as a matter of taste!

That is you want LaTeX syntax. 

It is easy enough to get the results you want.

The only place where I see a bug is that a single prime is set larger than multple

primes. 

regards

Keith

Am 11.02.2014 um 14:18 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist <mickep@gmail.com>:

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Keith J. Schultz <schultzk@uni-trier.de> wrote:

Am 11.02.2014 um 09:57 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist <mickep@gmail.com>:

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

On 2/10/2014 9:24 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:

Hi,

I used ConTeXt (mkii) to write my PhD thesis in Mathematics in 2008. It
worked just fine.

At the moment I write some exams and hand-outs using ConTeXt, but
research using LaTeX (since the journals do not really accept ConTeXt
and my collaborators dont know ConTeXt).

It certainly works OK to write math in ConTeXt, but I have a feeling
that there are some things that are somewhat broken or not finetuned to
output what mathematicians expect. Look at the attached pdf files [1]
l.pdf (from LaTeX) and c.pdf (from latest standalone ConTeXt), with
source l.tex and c.tex for some examples.

In mkiv we follow some alternative approaches compared to mkii (and probably other tex macro packages) and some aspects indeed might need tuning (or more configuration options) .. I try hard to get away from hackery solutions (for several reasons).

I agree it is good to avoid hackery as long as possible, and I for sure is ready to relearn how to write some things. With the examples I gave in the previous email in mind:

* How am I supposed to write first derivative (f') and second derivative (f'') in such a way that they have the same type of prime (the prime in the first derivative is the one I prefer)?

No sure if to call this a bug! It seems that a single prime is always larger than multiple ones!

You can always change its size!

I think the user should not have to change its size. All primes should have the same size, independent if they are one or several.

 

* How am I supposed to write f_xx'' to get the output as in the LaTeX example (i.e. so that the primes are over the xx)?

have to switch things around: f''_xx or f''_{xx}  depending on the actual result you want.

I know about the grouping. Please have a look at my example files in my earlier post in this thread.

 

 

* Could the default placement of limits in integrals be changed (integral=nolimits)? This is how it is done in almost all math books).

Not sure what you want here! example? can be LateX

As above, I gave examples...

Best regards, Mikael

 

* What about the size and finetuning of placement of indices in integrals and sums (and probably products, unions, ...)?

* I remember I suggested that \| should be double bars in a previous thread on this list. Is there any drawback in giving double bars for \|? Of course I can relearn and use \lVert and \rVert, but I have a feeling that if we want people moving from LaTeX to ConTeXt, then this is the kind of things that should just work as expected...

Best regards, Mikael

regards

Keith

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