* Indentation after margin float with caption
@ 2016-09-02 7:47 Mikael P. Sundqvist
2016-09-06 19:07 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
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From: Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2016-09-02 7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear list,
is it possible to have a margin figure with caption, and automatically
have the next paragraph indented? Look at the example below (pdf
result attached). If I add the none argument to the float, then the
next paragraph is indented. Otherwise not. Is it a bug or a feature?
Best regards, Mikael
\setupindenting[yes,medium]
\setupfloats[indentafter=yes]
\starttext
\input tufte
\placefigure[outermargin,middle]{}{\blackrule[width=1cm,height=1cm]}
This should be indented, but it is not! \input tufte
\input tufte
\placefigure[outermargin,middle,none]{}{\blackrule[width=1cm,height=1cm]}
This should be indented, and it is! But I want the caption. \input tufte
\stoptext
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2016-09-02 7:47 Indentation after margin float with caption Mikael P. Sundqvist
@ 2016-09-06 19:07 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
2016-09-06 19:23 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2016-09-07 11:25 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2016-09-06 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist <mickep@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> is it possible to have a margin figure with caption, and automatically
> have the next paragraph indented? Look at the example below (pdf
> result attached). If I add the none argument to the float, then the
> next paragraph is indented. Otherwise not. Is it a bug or a feature?
>
> Best regards, Mikael
>
> \setupindenting[yes,medium]
>
> \setupfloats[indentafter=yes]
>
> \starttext
>
> \input tufte
>
> \placefigure[outermargin,middle]{}{\blackrule[width=1cm,height=1cm]}
>
> This should be indented, but it is not! \input tufte
>
> \input tufte
>
> \placefigure[outermargin,middle,none]{}{\blackrule[width=1cm,height=1cm]}
>
> This should be indented, and it is! But I want the caption. \input tufte
> \stoptext
Dear all,
since I got no answer here I cross posted on stackexchange (see
http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/328147/52406). Now, I got a solution to
this from Aditya. It seems that it is not yet clear to me (or Aditya,
as far as I understand from the reply) which float placements that
respects the \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] and which not. Or more
importantly, why.
To make this email thread more complete, the solution of Aditya adds
\unprotect
\def\page_one_place_float_auto
{\page_one_place_float_otherwise\nonoindentation}
\def\page_one_place_float_bottom
{\page_one_place_float_otherwise\nonoindentation}
\def\page_one_place_float_margin
{\page_margin_blocks_process_float\nonoindentation}
\def\page_one_place_float_leftmargin
{\page_one_place_float_side_indeed\page_sides_process_float_leftmargin\nonoindentation}
\def\page_one_place_float_rightmargin{\page_one_place_float_side_indeed\page_sides_process_float_rightmargin\nonoindentation}
\protect
(this kind of solution was also suggested in 2011 in an old thread,
see https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/058152.html)
/Mikael
PS I have a couple of more questions on the list that has not got any
response. I hope you don't mind me cross posting on stackexchange in
these cases.
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2016-09-06 19:07 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
@ 2016-09-06 19:23 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2016-09-06 19:57 ` Aditya Mahajan
2016-09-07 11:25 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2016-09-06 19:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Mikael P. Sundqvist <mailto:mickep@gmail.com>
> 6. September 2016 um 21:07
>
> Dear all,
>
> since I got no answer here I cross posted on stackexchange (see
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/328147/52406). Now, I got a solution to
> this from Aditya. It seems that it is not yet clear to me (or Aditya,
> as far as I understand from the reply) which float placements that
> respects the \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] and which not. Or more
> importantly, why.
>
> To make this email thread more complete, the solution of Aditya adds
>
> \unprotect
> \def\page_one_place_float_auto
> {\page_one_place_float_otherwise\nonoindentation}
> \def\page_one_place_float_bottom
> {\page_one_place_float_otherwise\nonoindentation}
> \def\page_one_place_float_margin
> {\page_margin_blocks_process_float\nonoindentation}
> \def\page_one_place_float_leftmargin
> {\page_one_place_float_side_indeed\page_sides_process_float_leftmargin\nonoindentation}
> \def\page_one_place_float_rightmargin{\page_one_place_float_side_indeed\page_sides_process_float_rightmargin\nonoindentation}
> \protect
When backwards compatiblity is a reason for not changing this adding a
hook can be solution, e.g.
-\def\page_one_place_float_auto {\page_one_place_float_otherwise}
+\def\page_one_place_float_auto
{\page_one_place_float_otherwise\rootfloatparameter\c!next}
which can be used with \setupfloat[next=\indentation]
Wolfgang
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2016-09-06 19:23 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2016-09-06 19:57 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2016-09-06 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Mikael P. Sundqvist <mailto:mickep@gmail.com>
>> 6. September 2016 um 21:07
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> since I got no answer here I cross posted on stackexchange (see
>> http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/328147/52406). Now, I got a solution to
>> this from Aditya. It seems that it is not yet clear to me (or Aditya,
>> as far as I understand from the reply) which float placements that
>> respects the \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] and which not. Or more
>> importantly, why.
>>
>> To make this email thread more complete, the solution of Aditya adds
>>
>> \unprotect
>> \def\page_one_place_float_auto
>> {\page_one_place_float_otherwise\nonoindentation}
>> \def\page_one_place_float_bottom
>> {\page_one_place_float_otherwise\nonoindentation}
>> \def\page_one_place_float_margin
>> {\page_margin_blocks_process_float\nonoindentation}
>> \def\page_one_place_float_leftmargin
>> {\page_one_place_float_side_indeed\page_sides_process_float_leftmargin\nonoindentation}
>> \def\page_one_place_float_rightmargin{\page_one_place_float_side_indeed\page_sides_process_float_rightmargin\nonoindentation}
>> \protect
> When backwards compatiblity is a reason for not changing this adding a hook
> can be solution, e.g.
>
> -\def\page_one_place_float_auto {\page_one_place_float_otherwise}
> +\def\page_one_place_float_auto
> {\page_one_place_float_otherwise\rootfloatparameter\c!next}
>
> which can be used with \setupfloat[next=\indentation]
In the move to MkII to MkIV, there have been many changes that are not
backward compatible. So, I am not in favor of adding a new key when we
already have an indentnext key just for the sake of backward
compatibility.
It will be nice if all the location alternatives in setupfloat honored the
indentnext key. It is really awkaward that when indentnext=yes (or auto)
location=top and location=bottom behave differently.
If backward compatibility is really important, we could add a mechanism to
control the indentnext key for each location; but that would add too much
complexity to the code for very little benefit. If one wants to mix floats
that indent the next paragraph with floats that don't indent the next
paragraph, it is possible to define different types of floats (with the
same counters and lists) such that indentnext=yes for one type and
indentnext=no for the other.
Aditya
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* Re: Indentation after margin float with caption
2016-09-06 19:07 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
2016-09-06 19:23 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2016-09-07 11:25 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2016-09-07 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> \unprotect
> \def\page_one_place_float_auto
> {\page_one_place_float_otherwise\nonoindentation}
> \def\page_one_place_float_bottom
> {\page_one_place_float_otherwise\nonoindentation}
> \def\page_one_place_float_margin
> {\page_margin_blocks_process_float\nonoindentation}
> \def\page_one_place_float_leftmargin
> {\page_one_place_float_side_indeed\page_sides_process_float_leftmargin\nonoindentation}
> \def\page_one_place_float_rightmargin{\page_one_place_float_side_indeed\page_sides_process_float_rightmargin\nonoindentation}
> \protect
Actually, this should be:
\unprotect
\def\page_one_place_float_auto
{\page_one_place_float_otherwise\useindentnextparameter\floatparameter}
\def\page_one_place_float_bottom
{\page_one_place_float_otherwise\useindentnextparameter\floatparameter}
\def\page_one_place_float_margin
{\page_margin_blocks_process_float\useindentnextparameter\floatparameter}
\def\page_one_place_float_leftmargin
{\page_one_place_float_side_indeed\page_sides_process_float_leftmargin\useindentnextparameter\floatparameter}
\def\page_one_place_float_rightmargin{\page_one_place_float_side_indeed\page_sides_process_float_rightmargin\useindentnextparameter\floatparameter}
\protect
so that indentation is not forced, rather depends on indentnext key.
Aditya
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