* context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04?
@ 2011-07-21 9:20 Grummfy
2011-07-21 9:31 ` luigi scarso
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From: Grummfy @ 2011-07-21 9:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
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Hello everybody,
I'm on Ubuntu 11.04 64bits, and try to generate a pdf without success. On
ubuntu 10.10 64bit, it works perfectly, but after the upgrade, no ... So I
ask you if you have any idea.
When I try with texworks, it generate the PDF but in command line no. here
is the result of the command line :
> MTXrun | forcing cache reload
> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
> MTXrun | resolvers: remembering file 'mtx-context.lua'
> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>
I try different stuff (in root or not) :
luatools --generate
> MTXrun | forcing cache reload
> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
> MTXrun | resolvers: remembering file 'mtx-base.lua'
> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
> MTXrun | unknown script 'base.lua' or 'mtx-base.lua'
>
luatools --generate (in /usr/share/texmf/scripts/context/lua )
> MTXrun | forcing cache reload
> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | resolvers
>
mtxrun --generate
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '.'
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXOS' set to '/usr'
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | resolvers
>
I already try to purge all and reinstall it but it change nothing.
Thanks for the help
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2011-07-21 9:20 context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04? Grummfy
@ 2011-07-21 9:31 ` luigi scarso
2011-07-21 9:36 ` Taco Hoekwater
2011-07-21 12:30 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-07-21 9:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Grummfy <grummfy@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> I'm on Ubuntu 11.04 64bits, and try to generate a pdf without success. On
> ubuntu 10.10 64bit, it works perfectly, but after the upgrade, no ... So I
> ask you if you have any idea.
>
> When I try with texworks, it generate the PDF but in command line no. here
> is the result of the command line :
>>
>> MTXrun | forcing cache reload
>> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>> MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
>> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: remembering file 'mtx-context.lua'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
>> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>
> I try different stuff (in root or not) :
> luatools --generate
>>
>> MTXrun | forcing cache reload
>> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>> MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
>> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: remembering file 'mtx-base.lua'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
>> MTXrun | unknown script 'base.lua' or 'mtx-base.lua'
>
> luatools --generate (in /usr/share/texmf/scripts/context/lua )
>>
>> MTXrun | forcing cache reload
>> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>> MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
>> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>
>
> mtxrun --generate
>>
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '.'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXOS' set to '/usr'
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>
> I already try to purge all and reinstall it but it change nothing.
>
> Thanks for the help
can you try
$> cd tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua
$> mtxrun --generate
?
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* Re: context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04?
2011-07-21 9:20 context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04? Grummfy
2011-07-21 9:31 ` luigi scarso
@ 2011-07-21 9:36 ` Taco Hoekwater
2011-07-21 9:44 ` Grummfy
2011-07-21 12:30 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2011-07-21 9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 07/21/11 11:20, Grummfy wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> I'm on Ubuntu 11.04 64bits, and try to generate a pdf without success.
> On ubuntu 10.10 64bit, it works perfectly, but after the upgrade, no ...
> So I ask you if you have any idea.
Was your 10.10 install a standalone distribution, or Ubuntu's
repackaged texlive? If it was standalone, then it seems likely
that 11.04 has installed an ubuntu-repackaged texlive itself,
that is now overriding the correct installation.
If both installs were ubuntu packages, perhaps you should complain
to the Ubuntu people.
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04?
2011-07-21 9:36 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2011-07-21 9:44 ` Grummfy
2011-07-21 9:54 ` luigi scarso
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From: Grummfy @ 2011-07-21 9:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Taco Hoekwater; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
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Hello,
to answeer top luigi, here is the result of the command :
in /usr/share/texmf/scripts/context/lua
mtxrun --generate
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '.'
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXOS' set to '/usr'
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | resolvers
>
In 10.10 it was the version packaged by ubuntu like in my 11.04. But before
reproting the bug to ubuntu, I would like to ask here if there is nothing to
do...
I will try the standalone version if no solution was found here.
2011/7/21 Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com>
>
>
> On 07/21/11 11:20, Grummfy wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> > I'm on Ubuntu 11.04 64bits, and try to generate a pdf without success.
> > On ubuntu 10.10 64bit, it works perfectly, but after the upgrade, no ...
> > So I ask you if you have any idea.
>
> Was your 10.10 install a standalone distribution, or Ubuntu's
> repackaged texlive? If it was standalone, then it seems likely
> that 11.04 has installed an ubuntu-repackaged texlive itself,
> that is now overriding the correct installation.
>
> If both installs were ubuntu packages, perhaps you should complain
> to the Ubuntu people.
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>
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* Re: context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04?
2011-07-21 9:44 ` Grummfy
@ 2011-07-21 9:54 ` luigi scarso
2011-07-21 13:28 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-07-21 9:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Grummfy <grummfy@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> to answeer top luigi, here is the result of the command :
> in /usr/share/texmf/scripts/context/lua
> mtxrun --generate
>>
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '.'
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
>> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXOS' set to '/usr'
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
>> MTXrun | resolvers
>> MTXrun | resolvers
some misconfiguration in the variables: these are mine
resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to
'/opt/luatex/minimals-2011-beta/tex/texmf-linux/bin'
resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to
'/opt/luatex/minimals-2011-beta/tex/texmf-linux'
resolvers | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to
'/opt/luatex/minimals-2011-beta/tex'
resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
resolvers | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to 'texmf-linux'
resolvers | resolving |
resolvers | resolving | using configuration specification
'home:texmf/web2c;selfautoparent:texmf{-local,-context,}/web2c'
resolvers | resolving |
resolvers | resolving | unknown configuration file
'/root/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers | resolving | unknown configuration file
'/opt/luatex/minimals-2011-beta/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers | resolving | unknown configuration file
'/opt/luatex/minimals-2011-beta/tex/texmf-context/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers | resolving | found configuration file
'/opt/luatex/minimals-2011-beta/tex/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
resolvers | resolving |
resolvers | resolving | loading configuration file
'selfautoparent:texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
>
> In 10.10 it was the version packaged by ubuntu like in my 11.04. But before
> reproting the bug to ubuntu, I would like to ask here if there is nothing to
> do...
>
> I will try the standalone version if no solution was found here.
mkiv should be used only with minimals;
mkii should be ok with distros, but given that is included into the
minimals, in the end
it's always better to use the minimals .
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* Re: context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04?
2011-07-21 9:20 context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04? Grummfy
2011-07-21 9:31 ` luigi scarso
2011-07-21 9:36 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2011-07-21 12:30 ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-07-22 11:55 ` Van Belle Jonathan
2011-07-22 12:07 ` Grummfy
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2011-07-21 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:20, Grummfy wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> I'm on Ubuntu 11.04 64bits, and try to generate a pdf without success. On
> ubuntu 10.10 64bit, it works perfectly, but after the upgrade, no ... So I
> ask you if you have any idea.
What version of TeX Live is being used?
Can you please post the exact location of texmfcnf.lua and its contents?
Mojca
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* Re: context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04?
2011-07-21 12:30 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2011-07-22 11:55 ` Van Belle Jonathan
2011-07-22 12:07 ` Grummfy
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From: Van Belle Jonathan @ 2011-07-22 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2011/7/21 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:20, Grummfy wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> > I'm on Ubuntu 11.04 64bits, and try to generate a pdf without success. On
> > ubuntu 10.10 64bit, it works perfectly, but after the upgrade, no ... So
> I
> > ask you if you have any idea.
>
> What version of TeX Live is being used?
>
> Can you please post the exact location of texmfcnf.lua and its contents?
>
>
the version of texlive is : 2009-11
the location of texmfcnf.lua : was not found or antithing like 'texmf*.lua'
....
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* Re: context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04?
2011-07-21 12:30 ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-07-22 11:55 ` Van Belle Jonathan
@ 2011-07-22 12:07 ` Grummfy
2011-07-22 12:14 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Grummfy @ 2011-07-22 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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the version of texlive is : 2009-11
the location of texmfcnf.lua : was not found or antithing like 'texmf*.lua'
2011/7/21 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:20, Grummfy wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> > I'm on Ubuntu 11.04 64bits, and try to generate a pdf without success. On
> > ubuntu 10.10 64bit, it works perfectly, but after the upgrade, no ... So
> I
> > ask you if you have any idea.
>
> What version of TeX Live is being used?
>
> Can you please post the exact location of texmfcnf.lua and its contents?
>
> Mojca
>
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* Re: context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04?
2011-07-22 12:07 ` Grummfy
@ 2011-07-22 12:14 ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-07-22 12:17 ` Van Belle Jonathan
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2011-07-22 12:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 14:07, Grummfy wrote:
> the version of texlive is : 2009-11
> the location of texmfcnf.lua : was not found or antithing like 'texmf*.lua'
If you have TeX Live 2009 installed, you can forget about running
ConTeXt MKIV on it.
Install TeX Live 2011 or ConTeXt minimals or use ConTeXt MKII (using
texexec instead of context).
Mojca
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* Re: context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04?
2011-07-22 12:14 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2011-07-22 12:17 ` Van Belle Jonathan
2011-07-23 12:13 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Van Belle Jonathan @ 2011-07-22 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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oki doki. No problem.
But why it has working on ubuntu 10.04, it's strange ....
thanks for the help
2011/7/22 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 14:07, Grummfy wrote:
> > the version of texlive is : 2009-11
> > the location of texmfcnf.lua : was not found or antithing like
> 'texmf*.lua'
>
> If you have TeX Live 2009 installed, you can forget about running
> ConTeXt MKIV on it.
>
> Install TeX Live 2011 or ConTeXt minimals or use ConTeXt MKII (using
> texexec instead of context).
>
> Mojca
>
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* Re: context doens't work in cli mode on ubuntu 11.04?
2011-07-22 12:17 ` Van Belle Jonathan
@ 2011-07-23 12:13 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2011-07-23 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 14:17, Van Belle Jonathan wrote:
> oki doki. No problem.
>
> But why it has working on ubuntu 10.04, it's strange ....
One possibility (but I am not sure) is that Norbert kept updating both
ConTeXt and LuaTeX for Debian independent from official TeX Live
release numbers.
If my memory serves ... ConTeXt was completely broken in one of TeX
Live distributions due to version mismatch with LuaTeX. I think this
was back in 2009 (but it could also have been in 2008). I could try to
install Ubuntu 10.04 and check what is happening, but I'm not sure if
that would solve anything for anyone. If nothing else, you can be sure
that no patches will be included if you will ever need one.
Mojca
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