From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/80189 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Murphy Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: hbar (and probably some other symbols) doesn't work in latest beta Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:33:24 +0000 Message-ID: References: <50E77D9A.5030203@wxs.nl> <20130105044920.GB18396@khaled-laptop> <8F47F79D524D49C7B9D0DA3B90A9D3FC@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1521531837==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357821216 17399 80.91.229.3 (10 Jan 2013 12:33:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:33:36 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jan 10 13:33:51 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TtHKN-0005rz-HU for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:33:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C761101F2; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:33:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id dCnOhrlr17Hr; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:33:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5E7101E6; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:33:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03B6101E6 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:33:27 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id z35f94yMwZBr for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:33:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (filter1-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.69]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA33D101E5 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:33:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-ee0-f52.google.com (mail-ee0-f52.google.com [74.125.83.52]) by filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r0ACXPUC020067 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:33:25 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-ee0-f52.google.com with SMTP id d17so240144eek.39 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:33:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=6AybM7x5kMvMjpN/B3YCgYfXoa3sjeaNipkb4Ep/ZC8=; b=rNOCWfpJ+Zo61i8RQSAHNMHbqmJrx420FvZgsa2JqTlOgF2C2pWbyhv5nKEzNkv5LN WtStViwItSrEyIj5B0/KLsqGm/e/q2hrnUn/qbFKOy0gyWNnC5alv/WjKZehgW9MK5oS tdcvNumZ9pSyNJMZnz51/HXVpNgDhXm86rR7jgO0d+veUEqEPVRFLqN1QcGyTJ5m3dTA DvWd83xPdukYIAazvLP0+6WcNrxxNUUUFCZmVamyF+rVMCI4pXwIlBdimHCcqPyOHdgV NfkR1RxUt1PeNMg39wGA8wIOJqpKgFnLieioaABTiMDmXIUKwufhWczGZg+sj5S+McBy pQiw== Original-Received: by 10.14.205.198 with SMTP id j46mr192977122eeo.27.1357821205033; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:33:25 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.14.28.203 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:33:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8F47F79D524D49C7B9D0DA3B90A9D3FC@gmail.com> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=74.125.83.52; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0NIKcxpK8 - ab948a378c64 - 20130110 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.69 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:80189 Archived-At: --===============1521531837== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3438ea98317304d2ee6283 --047d7b3438ea98317304d2ee6283 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well actually the last remark makes sense: I should have done \let\hbar\hslash On 8 January 2013 19:37, Michael Murphy wrote: > Hi all, > > thanks for your responses. > > @Hans: yes, hbar is extremely common in quantum physics, in fact I'd go as > far to say as ubiquitous. It might be considered strange that the glyph > doesn't exist, but it's actually defined in TeX as a ligature: > > \def\hbar{{\mathchar'26\mkern-9muh} > > I tried defining this but it doesn't work: I still get nothing. > > As it happens, \hslash seems to work fine, and in my opinion is a suitable > substitute so I will just > > \def\hbar\hslash > > (although actually that didn't work, I had to do \def\hbar{\hslash} for > some reason or I got an error in some tikz code I wrote). > > Michael > > -- > Michael Murphy > murphy.md@gmail.com > > > On Saturday, 5 January 2013 at 04:49, Khaled Hosny wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 02:10:50AM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > > > > > > It looks like hbar (LATIN SMALL LETTER H WITH STROKE 0x127) is not > > > in the math fonts. > > > > > > > > \hbar should be a glyph variant of \hslash (U+0210F), according to STIX > > people, if the font provides such a variant. > > > > Regards, > > Khaled > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry > to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > --047d7b3438ea98317304d2ee6283 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well actually the last remark makes sense: I should have d= one \let\hbar\hslash


On 8 January 2013 19:37, Michael Murphy <= murphy.md@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Hi all,

thanks for your responses.

@Hans: yes, hbar is extremely common in quantum physics, in fact I'd go= as far to say as ubiquitous. It might be considered strange that the glyph= doesn't exist, but it's actually defined in TeX as a ligature:

\def\hbar{{\mathchar'26\mkern-9muh}

I tried defining this but it doesn't work: I still get nothing.

As it happens, \hslash seems to work fine, and in my opinion is a suitable = substitute so I will just

\def\hbar\hslash

(although actually that didn't work, I had to do \def\hbar{\hslash} for= some reason or I got an error in some tikz code I wrote).

Michael

--
Michael Murphy
murphy.md@gmail.com


On Saturday, 5 January 2013 a= t 04:49, Khaled Hosny wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 02:10:50AM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >
> > It looks like hbar (LATIN SMALL LETTER H WITH STROKE 0x127) is no= t
> > in the math fonts.
>
>
>
> \hbar should be a glyph variant of \hslash (U+0210F), according to STI= X
> people, if the font provides such a variant.
>
> Regards,
> Khaled
> ______________________________________________________________________= _____________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry= to the Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> webpage : http:= //www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
> wiki : http://c= ontextgarden.net
> ______________________________________________________________________= _____________



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