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Regards Marcus Vinicius On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:50 AM Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > Hi, > > Here is what I assume has happened: > > Hans gave LMTX its own "luametatex-cache=E2=80=9D directory (around Augus= t 20). > Previously, the cache for LMTX still used files under luatex-cache, just > like MKIV. But since that change, the =E2=80=9Ccontext -=E2=80=94generate= =E2=80=9D call no longer > updates files in luatex-cache, only in luametatex-cache. > > > That is not a big problem unless something happens to clear any existing > cache in that folder (like a re-install from scratch, say). > > Normally, one runs =E2=80=9Ccontext =E2=80=94-generate=E2=80=9D to fix th= e cache and =E2=80=9Ccontext > =E2=80=94-luatex=E2=80=9D to run luatex Combined, that would be > =E2=80=9Ccontext =E2=80=94-generate =E2=80=94-luatex=E2=80=9D. > But the problem is that luatex cannot find =E2=80=9Cmtx-context.lua=E2=80= =9D exactly > because of the missing cache that we are actually trying to create with > that command line. Missing =E2=80=9Cmtx-context.lua=E2=80=9D is usually f= ixed by running > the more basic =E2=80=9Cmtxrun =E2=80=94generate=E2=80=9D. > > However, =E2=80=9Cmtxrun -=E2=80=94generate=E2=80=9D does not currently = support a "-=E2=80=94luatex=E2=80=9D > argument, so the only way I know of right now to get the luatex-cache > restored|updated is to run the command below. > > (Incidentally, this sort of issue is why the core command is not =E2=80= =9Ccontext > -=E2=80=94generate=E2=80=9D but =E2=80=9Cmtxrun -=E2=80=94generate=E2=80= =9D. It is unfortunate that that does not > help in this case). > > Best wishes, > Taco > > > On 4 Oct 2021, at 15:33, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context < > ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > > > > We are busy with this off-list. > > > > If it is urgent: > > > > luatex --luaonly ~/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua --generate > > > > fixed it for me (you=E2=80=99ll need to adjust the path, of course) > > > > Best wishes, > > Taco > > > >> On 4 Oct 2021, at 15:28, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita via ntg-context < > ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > >> > >> Same problem here, on a linux64, context current version: 2021.09.26 > 17:00 > >> > >> Greetings > >> > >> Marcus Vinicius > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:55 AM Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context < > ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > >> > >>> Am 04.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Hans Hagen : > >>> > >>> On 10/4/2021 12:39 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: > >>>> Hi, > >>>> since a while, I can=E2=80=99t run MkIV any more, even after several= runs of > install.sh (and mtxrun --generate, of course). > > =E2=80=94 > Taco Hoekwater E: taco@bittext.nl > genderfluid (all pronouns) > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > --=20 Todas as coisas fatigam o corpo, salvo a m=C3=BAsica, que n=C3=A3o fatiga n= em o corpo nem seus membros, por ser descanso da alma, primavera do cora=C3=A7=C3=A3o,= distra=C3=A7=C3=A3o do aflito, entretenimento do solit=C3=A1rio, e vi=C3=A1tico do viajante. 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Thank you, Taco

Your suggestion resolved the issue = for me.

Regards

Marcus Vinicius

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:50 A= M Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context <= ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
Hi,

Here is what I assume has happened:

Hans gave LMTX its own "luametatex-cache=E2=80=9D directory (around Au= gust 20). Previously, the cache for LMTX still used files under luatex-cach= e, just like MKIV. But since that change, the =E2=80=9Ccontext -=E2=80=94ge= nerate=E2=80=9D call no longer updates files in luatex-cache, only in luame= tatex-cache.


That is not a big problem unless something happens to clear any existing ca= che in that folder (like a re-install from scratch, say).

Normally, one runs =E2=80=9Ccontext =E2=80=94-generate=E2=80=9D to fix the = cache and =E2=80=9Ccontext =E2=80=94-luatex=E2=80=9D to run luatex Combined= , that would be
=C2=A0 =E2=80=9Ccontext =E2=80=94-generate =E2=80=94-luatex=E2=80=9D.
But the problem is that luatex cannot find =E2=80=9Cmtx-context.lua=E2=80= =9D exactly because of the missing cache that we are actually trying to cre= ate with that command line. Missing =E2=80=9Cmtx-context.lua=E2=80=9D is us= ually fixed by running the more basic =E2=80=9Cmtxrun =E2=80=94generate=E2= =80=9D.

However, =E2=80=9Cmtxrun -=E2=80=94generate=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 does not current= ly support a "-=E2=80=94luatex=E2=80=9D argument, so the only way I kn= ow of right now to get the luatex-cache restored|updated is to run the comm= and below.

(Incidentally, this sort of issue is why the core command is not =E2=80=9Cc= ontext -=E2=80=94generate=E2=80=9D but =E2=80=9Cmtxrun -=E2=80=94generate= =E2=80=9D. It is unfortunate that that does not help in this case).

Best wishes,
Taco

> On 4 Oct 2021, at 15:33, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wr= ote:
>
> We are busy with this off-list.
>
> If it is urgent:
>
> luatex --luaonly ~/lmtx/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin/mtxrun.lua --generate
>
> fixed it for me (you=E2=80=99ll need to adjust the path, of course) >
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>
>> On 4 Oct 2021, at 15:28, Marcus Vinicius Mesquita via ntg-context = <ntg-context@ntg= .nl> wrote:
>>
>> Same problem here, on a linux64, context current version: 2021.09.= 26 17:00
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Marcus Vinicius
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:55 AM Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context= <ntg-context@nt= g.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 04.10.2021 um 13:06 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>:
>>>
>>> On 10/4/2021 12:39 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wro= te:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> since a while, I can=E2=80=99t run MkIV any more, even aft= er several runs of install.sh (and mtxrun --generate, of course).

=E2=80=94
Taco Hoekwater=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 E: taco@bittext.nl
genderfluid (all pronouns)



___________________________________________________________________________= ________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki!

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