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Is there a standard way to send unicode text to this list? Best, Michael On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Michael Ash wrote: > I am new to ConTeXt and very impressed. Much thanks to Hans Hagen and I= dris > Samawi Hamid for an excellent introduction. > > I am using the Hebrew Ezra SIL Hebrew Unicode Fonts. My question concern= s > the placement of the Hebrew vowel points ("niqqud"). For most letters, t= he > vowel points are placed too far to the left, as opposed to centered > directly under the letter. > > A short example follows. For some of the letters, e.g., "Hebrew Letter > Alef With Qamats" (kind of a t-shaped vowel underneath the alef), the vow= el > is correctly centered. For others it appears incorrectly to the left. > (This may be connected with whether the letter+vowel is packaged as a > single character or whether it is being composed on the fly.) > > I have used the same font in several predecessor programs (the makor > package for lamed and the cjhebrew package for LaTeX) and the vowels poin= ts > are placed correctly. > > Please let me know if you have any suggestions regarding adjusting the > placement of the vowel points. (ConTeXt version info is at the end of th= e > message.) > > Thank you, > Michael > > > \definefontfeature[hebrew][arabic][script=3Dhebr] > \definefont[hebrew][name:ezrasil] > > \starttext > > Zephania 3:8 includes all of the letters in the Hebrew alphabet, the > equivalent of \quotation{The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dogs} in > English. > > \startalignment[left] > > \textdir TRT > \hebrew > =D7=9C=D6=B8=D7=9B=D6=B5=D7=9F =D7=97=D6=B7=D7=9B=D6=BC=D7=95=D6=BC=D6=BE= =D7=9C=D6=B4=D7=99 =D7=A0=D6=B0=D7=90=D6=BB=D7=9D=D6=BE=D7=99=D6=B0=D7=94= =D7=95=D6=B8=D7=94 =D7=9C=D6=B0=D7=99=D7=95=D6=B9=D7=9D =D7=A7=D7=95=D6=BC= =D7=9E=D6=B4=D7=99 =D7=9C=D6=B0=D7=A2=D6=B7=D7=93 =D7=9B=D6=BC=D6=B4=D7=99 = =D7=9E=D6=B4=D7=A9=D7=81=D6=B0=D7=A4=D6=BC=D6=B8=D7=98=D6=B4=D7=99 =D7=9C= =D6=B6=D7=90=D6=B1=D7=A1=D6=B9=D7=A3 > =D7=92=D6=BC=D7=95=D6=B9=D7=99=D6=B4=D7=9D =D7=9C=D6=B0=D7=A7=D6=B8=D7=91= =D6=B0=D7=A6=D6=B4=D7=99 =D7=9E=D6=B7=D7=9E=D6=B0=D7=9C=D6=B8=D7=9B=D7=95= =D6=B9=D7=AA =D7=9C=D6=B4=D7=A9=D7=81=D6=B0=D7=A4=D6=BC=D6=B9=D7=9A=D6=B0 = =D7=A2=D6=B2=D7=9C=D6=B5=D7=99=D7=94=D6=B6=D7=9D =D7=96=D6=B7=D7=A2=D6=B0= =D7=9E=D6=B4=D7=99 =D7=9B=D6=BC=D6=B9=D7=9C =D7=97=D6=B2=D7=A8=D7=95=D6=B9= =D7=9F =D7=90=D6=B7=D7=A4=D6=BC=D6=B4=D7=99 > =D7=9B=D6=BC=D6=B4=D7=99 =D7=91=D6=BC=D6=B0=D7=90=D6=B5=D7=A9=D7=81 =D7= =A7=D6=B4=D7=A0=D6=B0=D7=90=D6=B8=D7=AA=D6=B4=D7=99 =D7=AA=D6=BC=D6=B5=D7= =90=D6=B8=D7=9B=D6=B5=D7=9C =D7=9B=D6=BC=D6=B8=D7=9C=D6=BE=D7=94=D6=B8=D7= =90=D6=B8=D7=A8=D6=B6=D7=A5=D7=83 > \stoptext > > > > > Here is the ConTeXt version and operating system: > > $ uname -a > Linux mash-laptop 3.8.0-23-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:24:54 UTC > 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux > > $ context --version > mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 0.60 > mtx-context | > mtx-context | main context file: > /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.mkiv > mtx-context | current version: 2013.06.04 23:52 > > > > --=20 Michael Ash, Chair, Department of Economics Professor of Economics and Public Policy University of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003 Email mash@econs.umass.edu Tel +1-413-545-2590 Twitter @michaelaoash --047d7b66fd3bd71db204df5be742 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PS I see that the Hebrew text did not come through the list email (at least= not on the version that I received). =C2=A0Is there a standard way to send= unicode text to this list?=C2=A0

Best,
Michae= l

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Michael Ash <mash@econs.umass.edu> wrote:
I am new to ConTeXt and very impressed. =C2=A0 Much thanks to Hans Hag= en and=C2=A0Idris Samawi Hamid for an excellent int= roduction.

I am using the Hebrew Ezra SIL Hebrew Unicode Font= s. =C2=A0My question concerns the placement of the Hebrew vowel points (&qu= ot;niqqud"). =C2=A0For most letters, the vowel points are placed too f= ar to the left, as opposed to centered directly under the letter. =C2=A0

A short example follows. =C2=A0For some of the letters,= e.g., "Hebrew Letter Alef With Qamats" (kind of a t-shaped vowel= underneath the alef), the vowel is correctly centered. =C2=A0For others it= appears incorrectly to the left. =C2=A0(This may be connected with whether= the letter+vowel is packaged as a single character or whether it is being = composed on the fly.)

I have used the same font in several predecessor progra= ms (the makor package for lamed and the cjhebrew package for LaTeX) and the= vowels points are placed correctly. =C2=A0=C2=A0

Please let me know if you have any suggestions regarding adjusting the plac= ement of the vowel points. =C2=A0(ConTeXt version info is at the end of the= message.)

Thank you,
Michael


\definefontfeature[hebrew][arabic][scri= pt=3Dhebr]
\definefont[hebrew][name:ezrasil]

=
\starttext

Zephania 3:8 includes all of the l= etters in the Hebrew alphabet, the equivalent of \quotation{The quick brown= fox jumps over the lazy dogs} in English.

\startalignment[left]

\textdir= TRT=C2=A0
\hebrew
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\stoptext




Here is the ConTeXt version and =C2=A0operating syste= m:

$ uname -a
Linux mash-laptop 3.8= .0-23-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:24:54 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GN= U/Linux

$ context --version
mtx-context = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | ConTeXt Process Management 0.60
mtx-context =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 |
mtx-context =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | main context file: /usr/= share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
mtx-context =C2=A0 =C2=A0 | current version: 2013.06.04 23:52
<= /div>






--
Michael Ash,= Chair, Department of Economics
Professor=C2=A0of Economics and Public = Policy=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
University of Massachusett= s
Amherst, MA 01003
Email=C2=A0mash@econs.umass.edu
Tel +1-413-545-2590=C2=A0Twitter @michaelaoash
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