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Sorry, I wasn't meant to be rude. In such cases, how should I proceed? Is there a better way? Thank you in advance. Cordially, Jairo :) El lun, 7 de dic. de 2020 a la(s) 03:58, Hans Hagen (j.hagen@xs4all.nl) escribi=C3=B3: > On 12/7/2020 6:15 AM, Jairo A. del Rio wrote: > > Hi. Thanks to Hans for the quick fixes. However, some examples are stil= l > > misbehaving. > > See the following: > > > > \setupbodyfont[70pt] > > \starttext > > \startTEXpage > > \framed{$a >> n =3D \left\lfloor\frac{a}{2^n}\right\rfloor$} > > \stopTEXpage > > \stoptext > > > > It works in MkIV, but it has the right margin cut with LMTX. Also, both > > MkIV and LMTX give cropped formulas when \framed is absent in the > > example above. Thank you in advance for any feedback. > be careful with terms like 'bug' or 'misbehaving' ... in this case it's > what one expects > > (1) this mechanism creates / operates in a vbox (using a hbox might have > been nicer in retrospect but then you would have more issues unless > configured) > > (2) so, we need some default hsize to start with and this is the text > width by defalut unless you set one with the 'width' argument or when > you pass [align=3D] > > (3) cropping takes place after all has been typeset but happens within > the width, again, this could be made more tolerant but then other cases > will fail > > with mechanisms like there is always a catch: handle this well and > something else will fail (when it works as expected it's seen as a > feature and otherwise it's considered a bug) > > Hans > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > --00000000000028afd105b5dc1931 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Understood. Sorry, I wasn't meant to be rude. In = such cases, how should I proceed? Is there a better way?
Than= k you in advance.

Cordially,

Jair= o :)

El lun, 7 de dic. de 2020 a la(s) 03:58, Hans Hagen (j.hagen@xs4all.nl) escribi=C3=B3:
On 12/7/2020 6:15 AM, Jairo A= . del Rio wrote:
> Hi. Thanks to Hans for the quick fixes. However, some examples are sti= ll
> misbehaving.
> See the following:
>
> \setupbodyfont[70pt]
> \starttext
> \startTEXpage
> \framed{$a >> n =3D \left\lfloor\frac{a}{2^n}\right\rfloor$}
> \stopTEXpage
> \stoptext
>
> It works in MkIV, but it has the right margin cut with LMTX. Also, bot= h
> MkIV and LMTX give cropped formulas when \framed is absent in the
> example above. Thank you in advance for any feedback.
be careful with terms like 'bug' or 'misbehaving' ... in th= is case it's
what one expects

(1) this mechanism creates / operates in a vbox (using a hbox might have been nicer in retrospect but then you would have more issues unless
configured)

(2) so, we need some default hsize to start with and this is the text
width by defalut unless you set one with the 'width' argument or wh= en
you pass [align=3D]

(3) cropping takes place after all has been typeset but happens within
the width, again, this could be made more tolerant but then other cases will fail

with mechanisms like there is always a catch: handle this well and
something else will fail (when it works as expected it's seen as a
feature and otherwise it's considered a bug)

Hans

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