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I don't speak French, but it is close enough to Spanish. Maybe we should do a translation to Spanish too. Congratulations for your colossal effort, Garulfo. Jairo :) El dom., 19 de jul. de 2020 11:49 p. m., Aditya Mahajan escribi=C3=B3: > On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, Garulfo wrote: > > > Thanks a lot !! > > > > I'm beginning to be able to typeset some simple example without any > struggle. > > > > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/File:modele_bonjour_le_monde.pdf > > > > The input file is attached in this mail. > > Thanks for all the hard work. Some minor comments on the sample file (som= e > of them also apply to the English version). > > 1. You don't need > > \configurercouleurs[=C3=A9tat=3Dactiv=C3=A9] > > That is the default in MkIV and LMTX. > > 2. Also: > > \utiliserURL[wiki] [http://wiki.contextgarden.net][][wiki > \ConTeXt\ ] > > It may be better to use `\ConTeXT{}` with no space afterwards. > > 3. Why use abbreviated names: > > \configurerpdp[style=3D\italique] > \configurertextespdp[\date \hfill Mod=C3=A8le \ConTeXt] > > I am guessing `pdp` is somehow an abbreviation of `footer`. One of the > things that I really like about ConTeXt compared to LaTeX is that there a= re > no funny abbreviations. > > It might be better to use > > \configurertextespdp[\date][Mod=C3=A8le \ConTeXt] > > 4. It may be better to reword \citer. That might create confusion with th= e > bibliography commands which use \cite. > > 5. I am not sure why you include an example of buffers in this document. > If it was just to have some filler text, I think that after all this work > you can persuade Hans to include a sample file from a French author in th= e > distribution :-) > > Aditya > > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > --0000000000003be33205aad84e8e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I guess pdp is "Pied de page". I don't spea= k French, but it is close enough to Spanish. Maybe we should do a translati= on to Spanish too.

Congratulat= ions for your colossal effort, Garulfo.

Jairo :)

El dom., 19 de jul. de 2020 11:49 p. m., Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> escribi=C3=B3:
=
On Sun, 19 Jul 2020, Garulfo wrote:
> Thanks a lot !!
>
> I'm beginning to be able to typeset some simple example without an= y struggle.
>
> https://wiki.contextg= arden.net/File:modele_bonjour_le_monde.pdf
>
> The input file is attached in this mail.

Thanks for all the hard work. Some minor comments on the sample file (some = of them also apply to the English version).

1. You don't need

=C2=A0 =C2=A0\configurercouleurs[=C3=A9tat=3Dactiv=C3=A9]

That is the default in MkIV and LMTX.

2. Also:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \utiliserURL[wiki]=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[<= a href=3D"http://wiki.contextgarden.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" targ= et=3D"_blank">http://wiki.contextgarden.net][][wiki \ConTeXt\ ]

It may be better to use `\ConTeXT{}` with no space afterwards.

3. Why use abbreviated names:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \configurerpdp[style=3D\italique]
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \configurertextespdp[\date \hfill Mod=C3=A8le \ConTeXt]

I am guessing `pdp` is somehow an abbreviation of `footer`. One of the thin= gs that I really like about ConTeXt compared to LaTeX is that there are no = funny abbreviations.

It might be better to use

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0\configurertextespdp[\date][Mod=C3=A8le \= ConTeXt]

4. It may be better to reword \citer. That might create confusion with the = bibliography commands which use \cite.

5. I am not sure why you include an example of buffers in this document. If= it was just to have some filler text, I think that after all this work you= can persuade Hans to include a sample file from a French author in the dis= tribution :-)

Aditya

___________________________________________________________________________= ________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://= www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage=C2=A0 : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://= context.aanhet.net
archive=C2=A0 : https://bitbucket.org/ph= g/context-mirror/commits/
wiki=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: http://contextgarden.net
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