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When I start a paragraph with a \quote or a \quotation the left quotemark does not protrude, but when I use Unicode quotes it does. I would prefer to use the commands. Any suggestions on how I can achieve proper left protrusion without resorting to Unicode characters? Wolfgang suggested the following lines of code; which worked perfically. \setupquotation [method=font] \setupquote [method=font] Returning to this project after several months I observe that when I use a \start- stopquotation environment, the quotation is not narrowed. The \setupquotation command obviously affects both the \quotation command and \start- stopquotation environment. Is there an elegant way to apply the \setupquotation command and retain the quotation indentation? Cheers, Michael Here's a mwe. \showframe \showgrid \setupwhitespace[medium] % Setup hanging punctuation, less severe style \definefontfeature [default] [default] [protrusion=punctuation,expansion=quality] \setupalign[hz,hanging] % Provide protrusion for quotations. \setupquotation[method=font] % Toggle this line to see the effect. \setupquote[method=font] \starttext \startparagraph \quotation[method=font]{Love makes the world go round,} as an old proverb has it\ldots \stopparagraph \startquotation \input tufte \stopquotation \stoptext --000000000000742e0005b7b423a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Several months ago I posed the following question.

When I start a parag= raph with a \quote or a \quotation the left=20 quotemark does not protrude, but when I use Unicode quotes it does. I=20 would prefer to use the commands. Any suggestions on how I can=20 achieve=C2=A0proper left protrusion without resorting to Unicode characters= ?

Wolfgang suggested the following lines of code; = which worked perfically.

\setupquotation [method=3Dfont]
\setupquote=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[method=3Dfont]

Returning to this project after several months I obser= ve that when I use a \start- stopquotation environment, the quotation is no= t narrowed. The \setupquotation command obviously affects both the \quotati= on command and \start- stopquotation environment.

= Is there an elegant way to apply the \setupquotation command and retain the= quotation indentation?=C2=A0

Cheers,
Michael

Here's a mwe.

\showframe
\showgrid
\setupwhitespace[medium]

% Setup= hanging punctuation, less severe style
\definefontfeature
=C2=A0 [de= fault]
=C2=A0 [default]
=C2=A0 [protrusion=3Dpunctuation,expansion=3D= quality]
\setupalign[hz,hanging]

% Provide protrusion for quotati= ons.
\setupquotation[method=3Dfont] % Toggle this line to see the effect= .
\setupquote[method=3Dfont]

\starttext
=C2=A0 \startparagraph=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \quotation[method=3Dfont]{Love makes the world go round,}= as an old proverb has it\ldots
=C2=A0 \stopparagraph
=C2=A0 \startqu= otation
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 \input tufte
=C2=A0 \stopquotation
\stoptext=


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