From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/77569 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mojca Miklavec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Small caps? 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Not everyone is a >> typographer to produce the appropriate fine-typography glyphs for >> their favourite font to cater to a particular style. Why should the >> system impose "super-duper" typography on users when they are willing >> to settle for less? > > Sure, but one problem with a mkii fake approach is that it is fragile when > something else than 8 bit characters shows up in the content stream. Is that also true for XeTeX? (What is an 8-bit character when talking of XeTeX?) As far as I remember converting uppercase into lowercase or vice versa should work out of the box in XeTeX (all the lccodes and uccodes are properly set already). [But I have no idea how that black magic with \Words & \Caps and their zillions of variants works.] > In mkiv > that's less an issues as there completely different solutions are used. But it lacks Indic scripts, so it's not an option for him, at least not yet. 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