From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/73181 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mojca Miklavec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTeXt-- does it make sense for my needs? 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ConTeXt only support XHTML to some extent. Now that xhtml backend is done, creating support for rtf should be a lot easier to do than before xhtml export was there, but unless some substantial funding is found, it is unlikely to ever be implemented. Honestly I see no reason why anyone would want to have RTF. Even if your colleagues get a document in RTF and fix a few things, it won't at all be easy to integrate that back. tex4ht most probably offers export to RTF, but since author's death it is nearly impossible to request any substantial feature. I bet that ConTeXt doesn't work with tex4ht any more. Roger suggested markdown/pandoc. It is limited to some extent, but if you are happy with its set of features, you could probably use it for export into both RTF and XHMTL. Of course then you can forget about lua sugars in ConTeXt ... > And *what* is > the deal with xetex? It seems to be the easiest way for accessing all > my fonts, but it also hasn't been updated for years and, since it is > tied to an old version of ConTeXt (as far as I can tell) it doesn't > seem like much of a winner. In ConTeXt MKIV with LuaTeX it is just as easy to access the fonts as it is in XeTeX. (It is only in plain LuaTeX that accessing fonts needs some fiddling.) You get even more flexibility. With XeTeX there are two major problems: 1.) ConTeXt never took advantages of all of its features. Ever since LuaTeX came to the scene, support for XeTeX in ConTeXt was pretty much frozen. XeTeX still works as well as pdfTeX, with the option to load OTF fonts, but there is no high-level support for some other low-level language-related features (interchar tokens, ...) or OpenType math (but that one is broken in XeTeX anyway). 2.) no maintenance of engine (no bugfixing) Still, XeTeX is able to handle some exotic scripts for which there is no support in ConTeXt yet, but that shouldn't be an issue for you. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________