From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/84945 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mojca Miklavec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Standalone Installation Question Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:04:57 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20131020165259.1564@binki> <20131020182309.108@binki> <20131020225448.3780@binki> <20131021010625.3284@binki> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382436302 30748 80.91.229.3 (22 Oct 2013 10:05:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:05:02 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Oct 22 12:05:08 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VYYpn-0005qu-OX for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:05:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3148810224; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:02:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id VObgSDpkH2M0; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:02:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD6A10210; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:02:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975E310210 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:02:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id hkyyK+67RPDA for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:02:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BAF10205 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:02:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-we0-x233.google.com (mail-we0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::233]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r9MA4vrh015490 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:04:57 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-we0-f179.google.com with SMTP id w61so7994178wes.10 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:04:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+eMmS4Wl4k3cMZ4RKOrpzW5wUWevreAH9/suBnK4IPc=; b=xnbGKt0e8rYVAAu9JgWekIBiNelfOB5In6pkha9J69TLYcHgBcrzfAsDQ7w4OGh6DR xHnbYkRNP06bC5WBc9szXVkwHGYnR6oowevNeuCqvB78d00MCUMIqcazPvmq/70pyeI0 wOYGvILD14/QFOplxwW+fMUupbSLZCrpVt+TTBU9Q8xCHlq+xW8OdAeqDuL/aomNt1FO egVxDp8Y8Oa5qQJ2pVSP4xCwzMIbeS2IJEBQyL4gTe52+P8p/+6ugrM/M9GeMx4gtF+5 EOQ1+4lyO8WotlTj+pEpwv+Nylc93g9vqCqsUb9LUwl/P7wpVw/kw3LJ1fc26+Ow1xeX JHSQ== X-Received: by 10.180.231.6 with SMTP id tc6mr13863373wic.59.1382436297062; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.217.114.201 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 03:04:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20131021010625.3284@binki> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0115 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::233; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03KEa4VfI - ddc6468b1359 - 20131022 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:84945 Archived-At: Hi, Just to make it clear: 1.) There used to be support for the native cygwin binaries in the ConTeXt distribution, but I only remember a single person asking for it and when it had to be built and debugged, he didn't have sufficient time to help debug the problem. Because of many problems (which could be solved, but there would have to be people interesting in testing and solving the problems, provide feedback, ...) the native cygwin binaries have been removed. 2.) first-setup.sh may recognise cygwin, but it won't download anything because the binaries aren't present. Maybe I should change the script to make this explicit and return an error when running on cygwin (there is not error checking - if fetching the files fails, it's not really evident). On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 6:06 PM, wrote: > > To: ConTeXt package maintainer for TeXlive distribution: > > TeXlive as of 2011 or so is compatible under unix type with cygwin. > > I do not want to use the Microsoft version. There is no reason from me to change > code and scripts to work with Microsoft's methods. There is no need to. If you fetch ConTeXt with binaries compiled with MSVC, you should be perfectly capable of running those binaries in cygwin environment without having to be aware that they are not for cygwin. (I might be wrong, but that's my understanding.) Unless you are a purist and want to avoid anything that has been compiled with MSVC due to potential security risks, there is no reason why the standard binaries couldn't be used. > Also I will not give up the unix developement environment that cygwin delivers to work with ConteXt. You really don't need to. Even if you keep using the windows version. > I'd like to know the the Context package that was submitted to TeXlive. ConTeXt was taken from http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm. Some scripts were used to assemble everything together. You need to check TeX Live sources (http://tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Build/) if you are curious about how it was done. > I presume this was in source format. Yes. But except for mtxrun.exe (which is just a windows wrapper for a lua script), the luatex binary (which is not part of ConTeXt) and the formats (that are generated on the fly), ConTeXt doesn't need any compilation. TeX Live contains "sources" for ConTeXt only + some binary wrappers for lua files (not relevant for cygwin). Everything else is either not part of ConTeXt or is using a scripting language. > How can I get that for the beta/current MKIV > and build it myself? Do you want the latest version inside TeX Live or the standalone distribution? If you want a working standalone distribution, a bit of work is needed first to set up everything. Most notably you or someone else would need to volunteer to provide binaries for at least LuaTeX and MetaPost. If you need the latest ConTeXt in TeX Live, it might be sufficient to create a separate texmf tree, put ConTeXt there and set up TEXMF paths properly, plus make sure that the latest mtxrun comes first in PATH. Or create a tlpkg with the latest ConTeXt and install it with tlmgr then. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________