From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/85996 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mojca Miklavec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Need for \buildtextaccent, was Re: latest beta Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:39:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <52D85BF4.6030905@uni-bonn.de> <52D91263.3040601@wxs.nl> <52D95482.3060201@rik.users.panix.com> <52D9723A.4080501@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389983969 31866 80.91.229.3 (17 Jan 2014 18:39:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:39:29 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jan 17 19:39:38 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W4EKM-0006Eh-Qw for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:39:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49926101EB; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:39:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id wQdKiykTQAO1; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:39:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FD5101E6; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:39:32 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77F1101E6 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:39:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DglABdxJGBi0 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:39:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202D6101E1 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:39:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x236.google.com (mail-wi0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id s0HIdTCX008679 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:39:29 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id ex4so1086811wid.15 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:39:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5F2lL/bPm+5rButJQx+qBi3ED2hKuYaeLsIr+B25ECI=; b=a9YdYALwvDzr7efwuFcQMC29aVSOpBMtqdc27F1J0EnLdNcyZ2IJr+Re3IS8/VuDXo 0K91J961qeOf+uRygw00mK0OES6RcM/HNpedJE3dJiz7Bqr8K8FuqKt2xN0dXnFzCtQu +b4B2Wdd8B75ZidTyYtCfQIdrDVExQf9ml7O60ZDn0cUObgrCqtyHuti21aC/5l6pR8L r/TBOftQ+A00JwFycq4CdE38g3IRq/5w6gBPWP2HR3+r080r/nVyACj/uk/yLH57AoxF pX5Z1H+dTD2nDCl6WXrdGHKEmifc178Xxpf+p6DurF538j4x+TTVl0st5euwhNceSR6t D1CQ== X-Received: by 10.180.206.229 with SMTP id lr5mr4043756wic.13.1389983969422; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:39:29 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.216.169.9 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:39:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52D9723A.4080501@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::236; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03Lf6Dti2 - 88c1a3559a71 - 20140117 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:85996 Archived-At: On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > > do we need a module with predefined 'missing from unicode' characters? I don't think so. We can end up with a neverending and always incomplete list (with theoretically unlimited number of entries), usable only to those few people who will care to contribute. In my opinion such a list is pretty much useless. Unicode already specifies that one could use "q" followed by "combining acute". And TeX also has support for {\'q}. Everything else is private use, something that users might not even use in more than a single document. I don't see any advantage in creating an endless incomplete list. In all honesty it's a lot more useful/readable/straightforward to use {\'q} or proper Unicode in these cases. And if it's not comfortable enough for the user, he can always provide his own private definitions. Thomas and Rik most probably need just the existing mechanism to work properly. Well, it might be slightly different for Thomas where Ancient Greek has a limited set of letters, but then such a list should better be defined in an "ancient greek predefined characters module". Just my 2 cents. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________