* ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT?
@ 2011-07-19 8:47 Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-19 8:51 ` Martin Schröder
2011-07-19 9:00 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Cecil Westerhof @ 2011-07-19 8:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I another thread I talked about my problems with converting my ConTeXt file
to an editable format. In principal going the xhtml way seemed best.
But yesterday I got talking with someone in the train. He told me that it
was possible to convert ConTeXt to LaTeXt and LaTeXt to an ODT file. This
could solve my problem. Was this person correct? If yes, how would I do
this?
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* Re: ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT?
2011-07-19 8:47 ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT? Cecil Westerhof
@ 2011-07-19 8:51 ` Martin Schröder
2011-07-19 9:00 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Martin Schröder @ 2011-07-19 8:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2011/7/19 Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com>:
> was possible to convert ConTeXt to LaTeXt and LaTeXt to an ODT file. This
LaTeX -> ODT: tex4ht
Best
Martin
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* Re: ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT?
2011-07-19 8:47 ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT? Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-19 8:51 ` Martin Schröder
@ 2011-07-19 9:00 ` Hans Hagen
2011-07-19 9:41 ` Cecil Westerhof
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-07-19 9:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 19-7-2011 10:47, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> I another thread I talked about my problems with converting my ConTeXt file
> to an editable format. In principal going the xhtml way seemed best.
>
> But yesterday I got talking with someone in the train. He told me that it
> was possible to convert ConTeXt to LaTeXt and LaTeXt to an ODT file. This
> could solve my problem. Was this person correct? If yes, how would I do
> this?
"context -> latex" sounds like a no-go to me
At some point if could be interesting to see if we could go from the
context xml export (structure makeup) to odt (office makeup) but it's
not something that I'll do for fun (I have no need for it anyway).
Hans
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* Re: ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT?
2011-07-19 9:00 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-07-19 9:41 ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-19 10:15 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Cecil Westerhof @ 2011-07-19 9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2011/7/19 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
> On 19-7-2011 10:47, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
>> I another thread I talked about my problems with converting my ConTeXt
>> file
>> to an editable format. In principal going the xhtml way seemed best.
>>
>> But yesterday I got talking with someone in the train. He told me that it
>> was possible to convert ConTeXt to LaTeXt and LaTeXt to an ODT file. This
>> could solve my problem. Was this person correct? If yes, how would I do
>> this?
>>
>
> "context -> latex" sounds like a no-go to me
>
Okay, I'll discard this option then. (Or someone else must have a way to do
the ConTeXt -> LaTeXt part.)
At some point if could be interesting to see if we could go from the context
> xml export (structure makeup) to odt (office makeup) but it's not something
> that I'll do for fun (I have no need for it anyway).
>
If I could help in a way …
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* Re: ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT?
2011-07-19 9:41 ` Cecil Westerhof
@ 2011-07-19 10:15 ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-07-19 10:24 ` Martin Schröder
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2011-07-19 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:41, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>
> Okay, I'll discard this option then. (Or someone else must have a way to do
> the ConTeXt -> LaTeXt part.)
Keep in mind that ConTeXt -> ODT should in theory be doable as well,
but the author of tex4ht died and it is very unlikely that the
conversion would work without any problems and even more unlikely that
anyone would know how to fix it.
If you can throw away any formatting you did and if you didn't use too
many ConTeXt specific tricks, you can "simply rewrite" your code to
LaTeX with a few regular expressions etc. But in the same spirit it
might be way easier to just "convert" the document straight to ODT
using copy-paste and applying some formatting there.
Mojca
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* Re: ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT?
2011-07-19 10:15 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2011-07-19 10:24 ` Martin Schröder
2011-07-19 10:35 ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-19 10:45 ` Hans Hagen
2011-07-19 12:58 ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Martin Schröder @ 2011-07-19 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2011/7/19 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>:
> If you can throw away any formatting you did and if you didn't use too
> many ConTeXt specific tricks, you can "simply rewrite" your code to
> LaTeX with a few regular expressions etc. But in the same spirit it
> might be way easier to just "convert" the document straight to ODT
> using copy-paste and applying some formatting there.
Or, if you know up front that you need multiple output formats,
you could use Markdown/Pandoc etc. and let it generate ConTeXt
as needed.
Best
Martin
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* Re: ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT?
2011-07-19 10:24 ` Martin Schröder
@ 2011-07-19 10:35 ` Cecil Westerhof
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From: Cecil Westerhof @ 2011-07-19 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2011/7/19 Martin Schröder <martin@oneiros.de>
> 2011/7/19 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>:
> > If you can throw away any formatting you did and if you didn't use too
> > many ConTeXt specific tricks, you can "simply rewrite" your code to
> > LaTeX with a few regular expressions etc. But in the same spirit it
> > might be way easier to just "convert" the document straight to ODT
> > using copy-paste and applying some formatting there.
>
> Or, if you know up front that you need multiple output formats,
> you could use Markdown/Pandoc etc. and let it generate ConTeXt
> as needed.
>
I did not know. They where happy with PDF's all the time, but when the
project was almost finished, they changed the requirements. But maybe good
to keep in mind for the next project.
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* Re: ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT?
2011-07-19 10:15 ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-07-19 10:24 ` Martin Schröder
@ 2011-07-19 10:45 ` Hans Hagen
2011-07-19 10:50 ` Cecil Westerhof
2011-07-19 12:58 ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-07-19 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Mojca Miklavec
On 19-7-2011 12:15, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:41, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>>
>> Okay, I'll discard this option then. (Or someone else must have a way to do
>> the ConTeXt -> LaTeXt part.)
>
> Keep in mind that ConTeXt -> ODT should in theory be doable as well,
> but the author of tex4ht died and it is very unlikely that the
> conversion would work without any problems and even more unlikely that
> anyone would know how to fix it.
>
> If you can throw away any formatting you did and if you didn't use too
> many ConTeXt specific tricks, you can "simply rewrite" your code to
> LaTeX with a few regular expressions etc. But in the same spirit it
> might be way easier to just "convert" the document straight to ODT
> using copy-paste and applying some formatting there.
It also depends on the requirement.
Of a document only has some sectioning, itemize, and tables (and the
majority of the document have) then some simple convertable input format
can do. For more complex documents you end up with either coding in tex
or when multiple output is needed xml is a good choice. When coding in
tex, the xml/xhtml can be of help (and it will evolve) as it provides a
pretty complete structure of the document.
Concerning OTD: if you need to be roundtrip, then you also need to be
able to convert back, which might be non trivial.
Hans
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* Re: ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT?
2011-07-19 10:15 ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-07-19 10:24 ` Martin Schröder
2011-07-19 10:45 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-07-19 12:58 ` Khaled Hosny
2011-07-19 13:06 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Khaled Hosny @ 2011-07-19 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:15:46PM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:41, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> >
> > Okay, I'll discard this option then. (Or someone else must have a way to do
> > the ConTeXt -> LaTeXt part.)
>
> Keep in mind that ConTeXt -> ODT should in theory be doable as well,
> but the author of tex4ht died and it is very unlikely that the
> conversion would work without any problems and even more unlikely that
> anyone would know how to fix it.
ODT is just another XML format, so it shouldn't be hard to do with the
current export code (and IIRC they have even a "flat xml" ODT that gets
the whole document in one xml file instead of the common multi-file in a
zip archive format).
Regards,
Khaled
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* Re: ConTeXt -> LaTeXt -> ODT?
2011-07-19 12:58 ` Khaled Hosny
@ 2011-07-19 13:06 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-07-19 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 19-7-2011 2:58, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:15:46PM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:41, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay, I'll discard this option then. (Or someone else must have a way to do
>>> the ConTeXt -> LaTeXt part.)
>>
>> Keep in mind that ConTeXt -> ODT should in theory be doable as well,
>> but the author of tex4ht died and it is very unlikely that the
>> conversion would work without any problems and even more unlikely that
>> anyone would know how to fix it.
>
> ODT is just another XML format, so it shouldn't be hard to do with the
> current export code (and IIRC they have even a "flat xml" ODT that gets
> the whole document in one xml file instead of the common multi-file in a
> zip archive format).
So then it's mostly a matter of someone writing an xslt script.
Hans
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