* Coming back to ConTeXt
@ 2013-01-25 13:47 Alain Delmotte
2013-01-25 15:09 ` Marco Patzer
2013-01-25 16:14 ` Mojca Miklavec
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alain Delmotte @ 2013-01-25 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: liste ConTeXt
Hi,
I decided to give another try to ConTeXt.
I already did two years ago, I think, but I had problems
mostly because of the lack of documentation for MkIV.
Having a more or less strong knowledge and experience of
LaTeX doesn't help!!!
This time:
I did not succeed to install a stand alone version. I have
also TeX Live and I need it for LaTeX.
I am using TeXworks (not the one from TeX Live).
I use ConTeX from TeX Live 2012:
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.2-2012080612 (TeX Live
2012/W32TeX)
ConTeXt ver: 2012.05.30 11:26 MKIV fmt: 2013.1.20 int:
english/english
Following the discussions on ntg-context, there often is
solution using one of hte latest version of ConTeXt, so I
have a first question: is it possible to update the TeX Live
ConTeXt and its associated files?
I also have questions about typography (hyphenation,
typographic rules,...) to have something according the
French rules, and others...
Other questions in another message.
Thanks for your help,
Alain Delmotte
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Coming back to ConTeXt
2013-01-25 13:47 Coming back to ConTeXt Alain Delmotte
@ 2013-01-25 15:09 ` Marco Patzer
2013-01-25 16:14 ` Mojca Miklavec
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Marco Patzer @ 2013-01-25 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1104 bytes --]
On 2013–01–25 Alain Delmotte wrote:
> I decided to give another try to ConTeXt.
> I already did two years ago, I think, but I had problems mostly
> because of the lack of documentation for MkIV.
Welcome back!
> I did not succeed to install a stand alone version.
It should be as easy as running first-setup followed by setting the
PATH. Explain exactly what you have tried and what failed, then we
can help.
> I have also TeX Live and I need it for LaTeX.
No problem. ConTeXt does not interfere with other TeX installations.
> Following the discussions on ntg-context, there often is solution
> using one of hte latest version of ConTeXt, so I have a first
> question:
Correct.
> is it possible to update the TeX Live ConTeXt and its
> associated files?
I don't use TeX Live myself, so I cannot help you directly. But
there is a repository called “tlcontrib” with more recent packages.
My suggestion is to focus on getting the standalone version working.
You will receive the most recent bug fixes and it does not interfere
with your LaTeX.
Marco
[-- Attachment #1.2: Digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 490 bytes --]
[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --]
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Coming back to ConTeXt
2013-01-25 13:47 Coming back to ConTeXt Alain Delmotte
2013-01-25 15:09 ` Marco Patzer
@ 2013-01-25 16:14 ` Mojca Miklavec
2013-01-25 19:11 ` Alain Delmotte
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2013-01-25 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I decided to give another try to ConTeXt.
> I already did two years ago, I think, but I had problems mostly because of
> the lack of documentation for MkIV.
> Having a more or less strong knowledge and experience of LaTeX doesn't
> help!!!
>
> This time:
> I did not succeed to install a stand alone version.
Tell us more about the specific problems.
> Following the discussions on ntg-context, there often is solution using one
> of hte latest version of ConTeXt, so I have a first question: is it possible
> to update the TeX Live ConTeXt and its associated files?
I would suggest you to do the following:
- Add tlcontrib to the list of repositories and update luatex and
ConTeXt from there (http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/usage.html).
- You can add the latest version of ConTeXt to texmf-local or
$TEXMFHOME (usually $HOME/texmf, but may be set to a different place)
or to some other place. You can clone a git repository
(https://gitorious.org/context) there for example (just make sure that
you don't use one extra directory).
- Apart from that you need to make sure that mtxrun will be taken from
the latest ConTeXt. There are different options to achieve that. (Add
$HOME/bin to PATH and put a symlink or copy of mtxrun there, or any
other option that comes to your mind.)
Mojca
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Coming back to ConTeXt
2013-01-25 16:14 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2013-01-25 19:11 ` Alain Delmotte
2013-01-25 22:48 ` Mojca Miklavec
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alain Delmotte @ 2013-01-25 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hi,
Le 25/01/2013 17:14, Mojca Miklavec a écrit :
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I decided to give another try to ConTeXt.
>> I already did two years ago, I think, but I had problems mostly because of
>> the lack of documentation for MkIV.
>> Having a more or less strong knowledge and experience of LaTeX doesn't
>> help!!!
>>
>> This time:
>> I did not succeed to install a stand alone version.
>
> Tell us more about the specific problems.
I did retry everything from the beginning and now it works.
One problem is that there is two "bin" folder and I was
first pointing to the wrong one; after that I didn't see the
context.exe and was trying to use mtxrun.
And of course I did add to the path.
So now it works from a standalone version. (up to date)
>
>> Following the discussions on ntg-context, there often is solution using one
>> of hte latest version of ConTeXt, so I have a first question: is it possible
>> to update the TeX Live ConTeXt and its associated files?
>
> I would suggest you to do the following:
> - Add tlcontrib to the list of repositories and update luatex and
> ConTeXt from there (http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/usage.html).
I did try this before reinstalling the standalone; but it
was refused because there probably is a pointer to TeX Live
2010 and I have 2012.
> - You can add the latest version of ConTeXt to texmf-local or
> $TEXMFHOME (usually $HOME/texmf, but may be set to a different place)
> or to some other place. You can clone a git repository
> (https://gitorious.org/context) there for example (just make sure that
> you don't use one extra directory).
> - Apart from that you need to make sure that mtxrun will be taken from
> the latest ConTeXt. There are different options to achieve that. (Add
> $HOME/bin to PATH and put a symlink or copy of mtxrun there, or any
> other option that comes to your mind.)
>
> Mojca
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
> wiki : http://contextgarden.net
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Coming back to ConTeXt
2013-01-25 19:11 ` Alain Delmotte
@ 2013-01-25 22:48 ` Mojca Miklavec
2013-01-26 12:38 ` Alain Delmotte
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2013-01-25 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:
>
>> I would suggest you to do the following:
>> - Add tlcontrib to the list of repositories and update luatex and
>> ConTeXt from there (http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/usage.html).
>
> I did try this before reinstalling the standalone; but it was refused
> because there probably is a pointer to TeX Live 2010 and I have 2012.
Set the repository to
http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2012
and make sure that you don't have ConTeXt distribution in PATH*** when
calling tlmgr.
Mojca
*** From purely theoretical point of view you may have it in path, but
after TeX Live binaries.
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: Coming back to ConTeXt
2013-01-25 22:48 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2013-01-26 12:38 ` Alain Delmotte
2013-01-27 23:39 ` Mojca Miklavec
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alain Delmotte @ 2013-01-26 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hi,
Le 25/01/2013 23:48, Mojca Miklavec a écrit :
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:
>>
>>> I would suggest you to do the following:
>>> - Add tlcontrib to the list of repositories and update luatex and
>>> ConTeXt from there (http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/usage.html).
>>
>> I did try this before reinstalling the standalone; but it was refused
>> because there probably is a pointer to TeX Live 2010 and I have 2012.
>
> Set the repository to
> http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2012
> and make sure that you don't have ConTeXt distribution in PATH*** when
> calling tlmgr.
Ok I did and it seemed to work, at least some files were
updated.
But when I compiled I got the same versions' information in
the log
But as I can use the standalone, I'll investigate later.
By the way, for the stand alone version under TeXworks, the
bin folder information should go before those of TeX Live to
avoid problems.
Regards,
Alain
>
> Mojca
>
>
> *** From purely theoretical point of view you may have it in path, but
> after TeX Live binaries.
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
> wiki : http://contextgarden.net
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Coming back to ConTeXt
2013-01-26 12:38 ` Alain Delmotte
@ 2013-01-27 23:39 ` Mojca Miklavec
2013-01-28 13:20 ` Alain Delmotte
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2013-01-27 23:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:
>
>> Set the repository to
>> http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2012
>> and make sure that you don't have ConTeXt distribution in PATH*** when
>> calling tlmgr.
>
> Ok I did and it seemed to work, at least some files were updated.
>
> But when I compiled I got the same versions' information in the log
The same version of ConTeXt or the same version of LuaTeX?
What do you get with
luatex --version
?
> By the way, for the stand alone version under TeXworks, the bin folder
> information should go before those of TeX Live to avoid problems.
In TeXworks one needs to be careful about paths in either case. (But
then again, there's the same issue with basically any GUI program that
runs TeX. PATH usually needs to be set up separately from the shell.)
Mojca
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: Coming back to ConTeXt
2013-01-27 23:39 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2013-01-28 13:20 ` Alain Delmotte
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alain Delmotte @ 2013-01-28 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hi !
Le 28/01/2013 00:39, Mojca Miklavec a écrit :
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:
>>
>>> Set the repository to
>>> http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2012
>>> and make sure that you don't have ConTeXt distribution in PATH*** when
>>> calling tlmgr.
>>
>> Ok I did and it seemed to work, at least some files were updated.
>>
>> But when I compiled I got the same versions' information in the log
>
> The same version of ConTeXt or the same version of LuaTeX?
>
> What do you get with
> luatex --version
The same versions for both context and luatex:
context 28782 20120630
luatex 26690 0.72.2-20120806
When I did update from TeX Live, 6 files were updated, but I
did take note, unfortunately.
By the way, I have two context.exe in TeX Live in:
c:\texlive\2012\bin\win32
c:\texlive\2012\texmf-dist\scripts\context\stubs\mswin
Testing form the command line, they are the same as noted above.
The one in the standalone are:
LuaTeX, Version beta-0.75.0-2013012222 (rev 4565)
ConTeXt ver: 2013.01.24 16:47 MKIV fmt: 2013.1.25 int:
english/english
> ?
>
>> By the way, for the stand alone version under TeXworks, the bin folder
>> information should go before those of TeX Live to avoid problems.
>
> In TeXworks one needs to be careful about paths in either case. (But
> then again, there's the same issue with basically any GUI program that
> runs TeX. PATH usually needs to be set up separately from the shell.)
My paths are defined in Windows, but with TeXworks they also
appear in the definition window for the program.
I'll enquire to see if it is possible to suppress those.
Alain
>
> Mojca
___________________________________________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki : http://contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________________
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2013-01-28 13:20 UTC | newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed)
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
2013-01-25 13:47 Coming back to ConTeXt Alain Delmotte
2013-01-25 15:09 ` Marco Patzer
2013-01-25 16:14 ` Mojca Miklavec
2013-01-25 19:11 ` Alain Delmotte
2013-01-25 22:48 ` Mojca Miklavec
2013-01-26 12:38 ` Alain Delmotte
2013-01-27 23:39 ` Mojca Miklavec
2013-01-28 13:20 ` Alain Delmotte
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).