From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/82142 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mojca Miklavec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination "fi" Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:48:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <51779A39.7050500@mmnetz.de> <9800EA92-858D-426E-A9AC-F8C0FD29E6AA@gmail.com> <5B0920D4-0441-4D2E-BC5F-1A1290662454@web.de> <5178D398.7050209@uni-bonn.de> <8D07355B-7A3D-4CB2-B164-C326610D5928@web.de> <20130426082054.GB2471@khaled-laptop> <20130426182742.GB13957@khaled-laptop> <18482110-F93A-412C-B4A5-E8C5C7DE7EA9@web.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367012929 14995 80.91.229.3 (26 Apr 2013 21:48:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:48:49 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Apr 26 23:48:53 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UVqVh-00082C-8n for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:48:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E084101EA; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:48:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id d5cJmJNOwEl3; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:48:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD227101E4; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:48:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D565101E4 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:48:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 161UOrRJz3FJ for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:48:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-til.mf.surf.net (filter3-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.219]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1895C101E0 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:48:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) by filter3-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r3QLmkVl014020 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:48:46 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hm14so1098871wib.11 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:48:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pDPoDZn8Z/dc+Ksj/DZ6KKmBpb29P6E4D/ohV1Y/5/s=; b=MTy6iSmGDtVbYw16qiZ8ZlSFgxz1Y0tUtiXro+FgJPfEbC/bkee1OUkKMyJJVSIKF3 tVxvMsHvgxP48zFpeyJoahaDyTu4lhSJ0nNEl5QdU2y7HKeRyBYBHVLI5g+wpoqM45VU SdXRhyDw+ahU/CxR4jJqVvytQ3BnCjaDUvqPxIGOjR7I5DeC14bihFOt9w89NzSbm6nC XZk2Oq0Fu8Oi2o5UGuuxFzGbt9xqzBFAzKTRbnLbw+qNST+aJMJjCzmt3KJNG+VxTbRO gw0jfwt6i79vH8RJNLXgNmeHQzEYyDddjFl/g1bWb8cGdhBAA7NpoCdfb8F3FvQEI2pw Pc9Q== X-Received: by 10.180.183.50 with SMTP id ej18mr6601394wic.4.1367012926315; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.194.152.8 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:48:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <18482110-F93A-412C-B4A5-E8C5C7DE7EA9@web.de> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::232; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 06JsJMKBS - 025283dee455 - 20130426 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:82142 Archived-At: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Keith J. Schultz wrote: > > to be honest I never noticed them when I was using LaTeX. It might have been > the fonts. Someone had to show me the first ligature years ago and when he did that, I had to check every single book and document I had at hand to check if ligatures were really commonly used. I simply couldn't believe my eyes and the fact that it took me some 15 years of literacy and a couple of years of using TeX without ever noticing any ligature anywhere. I consider this (the fact that one doesn't notice it) part of a good design. It's similar with kerning: one doesn't notice it until/unless it's bad. It's similar in the kitchen also. One doesn't notice that there is salt in food unless there's too little or too much of it present. Mojca PS: if you really hate the ligatures, you can try to help improve this "interesting" package to handle ligatures (it probably has the most potential in engines other than XeTeX/LuaTeX because it's a bit more complicated to turn off the ligatures there): http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/serbian-lig The package defines commands for all the words from a dictionary which contain letters "fi", for example \def\profit{prof\kern 0.03em it\xspace} \def\Gadafi{Gadaf\kern 0.03em i\xspace} % \stopsarcasm ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________