* Missing "missing character" warning
@ 2012-05-25 7:15 Marco Pessotto
2012-05-25 7:40 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Marco Pessotto @ 2012-05-25 7:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hello all.
Reading the manual “Fonts in ConTeXt” I found the following statement
(p.97):
“In both cases we end up with a message in the log file and a resulting
file with missing data”. [When the font doesn't provide a glyph].
Now, the only case when the warning is issued is using mkii with xetex
(texexec -xtx), not with mkiv. (Unsurprisingly, the file with missing
data is always there :-)
Minimal example:
%% start
\mainlanguage[hr]
\starttext
Ja sam sȃm, i sȃm sam došao da izvršim pravdu.
\stoptext
%% stop
The name of the char is: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH INVERTED BREVE (0x0203)
So:
$ context prova.tex
$ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
[ match nothing ]
$ texexec --xtx prova.tex
$ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
It's not a regression, since the behaviour is the same with the last
year ConTeXt.
Best wishes
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* Re: Missing "missing character" warning
2012-05-25 7:15 Missing "missing character" warning Marco Pessotto
@ 2012-05-25 7:40 ` Hans Hagen
2012-05-25 7:45 ` luigi scarso
2012-05-25 7:48 ` Marco Pessotto
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-25 7:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Marco Pessotto
On 25-5-2012 09:15, Marco Pessotto wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> Reading the manual “Fonts in ConTeXt” I found the following statement
> (p.97):
>
> “In both cases we end up with a message in the log file and a resulting
> file with missing data”. [When the font doesn't provide a glyph].
>
> Now, the only case when the warning is issued is using mkii with xetex
> (texexec -xtx), not with mkiv. (Unsurprisingly, the file with missing
> data is always there :-)
>
> Minimal example:
>
> %% start
> \mainlanguage[hr]
>
> \starttext
> Ja sam sȃm, i sȃm sam došao da izvršim pravdu.
> \stoptext
> %% stop
>
> The name of the char is: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH INVERTED BREVE (0x0203)
>
> So:
>
> $ context prova.tex
>
> $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
> [ match nothing ]
>
> $ texexec --xtx prova.tex
>
> $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
> prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
> prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
>
> It's not a regression, since the behaviour is the same with the last
> year ConTeXt.
You can add this:
\checkcharactersinfont
and get missing characters reported to the terminal. Unfortunately I
forgot () when adapting this command to the command namespace ...
\unexpanded\def\checkcharactersinfont
{\ctxcommand{checkcharactersinfont()}}
(fixed in next beta)
Hans
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2012-05-25 7:40 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-05-25 7:45 ` luigi scarso
2012-05-25 7:50 ` luigi scarso
2012-05-25 7:52 ` Hans Hagen
2012-05-25 7:48 ` Marco Pessotto
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From: luigi scarso @ 2012-05-25 7:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 25-5-2012 09:15, Marco Pessotto wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello all.
>>
>> Reading the manual “Fonts in ConTeXt” I found the following statement
>> (p.97):
>>
>> “In both cases we end up with a message in the log file and a resulting
>> file with missing data”. [When the font doesn't provide a glyph].
>>
>> Now, the only case when the warning is issued is using mkii with xetex
>> (texexec -xtx), not with mkiv. (Unsurprisingly, the file with missing
>> data is always there :-)
>>
>> Minimal example:
>>
>> %% start
>> \mainlanguage[hr]
>>
>> \starttext
>> Ja sam sȃm, i sȃm sam došao da izvršim pravdu.
>> \stoptext
>> %% stop
>>
>> The name of the char is: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH INVERTED BREVE (0x0203)
>>
>> So:
>>
>> $ context prova.tex
>>
>> $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
>> [ match nothing ]
>>
>> $ texexec --xtx prova.tex
>>
>> $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
>> prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font
>> [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
>> prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font
>> [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
>>
>> It's not a regression, since the behaviour is the same with the last
>> year ConTeXt.
>
>
> You can add this:
>
> \checkcharactersinfont
>
> and get missing characters reported to the terminal. Unfortunately I forgot
> () when adapting this command to the command namespace ...
>
> \unexpanded\def\checkcharactersinfont {\ctxcommand{checkcharactersinfont()}}
>
> (fixed in next beta)
>
> Hans
Also
enabletrackers[fonts.missing]
\mainlanguage[hr]
\starttext ȃ\stoptext
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2012-05-25 7:45 ` luigi scarso
@ 2012-05-25 7:50 ` luigi scarso
2012-05-25 7:52 ` Hans Hagen
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From: luigi scarso @ 2012-05-25 7:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:45 AM, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> On 25-5-2012 09:15, Marco Pessotto wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all.
>>>
>>> Reading the manual “Fonts in ConTeXt” I found the following statement
>>> (p.97):
>>>
>>> “In both cases we end up with a message in the log file and a resulting
>>> file with missing data”. [When the font doesn't provide a glyph].
>>>
>>> Now, the only case when the warning is issued is using mkii with xetex
>>> (texexec -xtx), not with mkiv. (Unsurprisingly, the file with missing
>>> data is always there :-)
>>>
>>> Minimal example:
>>>
>>> %% start
>>> \mainlanguage[hr]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>> Ja sam sȃm, i sȃm sam došao da izvršim pravdu.
>>> \stoptext
>>> %% stop
>>>
>>> The name of the char is: LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH INVERTED BREVE (0x0203)
>>>
>>> So:
>>>
>>> $ context prova.tex
>>>
>>> $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
>>> [ match nothing ]
>>>
>>> $ texexec --xtx prova.tex
>>>
>>> $ grep -i -E '(warn|miss)' prova.*
>>> prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font
>>> [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
>>> prova.log:Missing character: There is no ȃ in font
>>> [lmroman12-regular]:+liga;+kern;mappi
>>>
>>> It's not a regression, since the behaviour is the same with the last
>>> year ConTeXt.
>>
>>
>> You can add this:
>>
>> \checkcharactersinfont
>>
>> and get missing characters reported to the terminal. Unfortunately I forgot
>> () when adapting this command to the command namespace ...
>>
>> \unexpanded\def\checkcharactersinfont {\ctxcommand{checkcharactersinfont()}}
>>
>> (fixed in next beta)
>>
>> Hans
>
> Also
>
> enabletrackers[fonts.missing]
> \mainlanguage[hr]
> \starttext ȃ\stoptext
Uh I mean
\enabletrackers[fonts.missing]
\mainlanguage[hr]
\starttext ȃ\stoptext
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2012-05-25 7:45 ` luigi scarso
2012-05-25 7:50 ` luigi scarso
@ 2012-05-25 7:52 ` Hans Hagen
2012-05-25 7:59 ` Marco Pessotto
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-25 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 25-5-2012 09:45, luigi scarso wrote:
> enabletrackers[fonts.missing]
> \mainlanguage[hr]
> \starttext ȃ\stoptext
indeed better
Hans
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2012-05-25 7:52 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-05-25 7:59 ` Marco Pessotto
2012-05-28 16:26 ` Marco Pessotto
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From: Marco Pessotto @ 2012-05-25 7:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
> On 25-5-2012 09:45, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>> enabletrackers[fonts.missing]
>> \mainlanguage[hr]
>> \starttext ȃ\stoptext
>
> indeed better
>
Wikified.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTeX#Get_a_warning_if_the_glyph_is_missing
Cheers
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* Re: Missing "missing character" warning
2012-05-25 7:59 ` Marco Pessotto
@ 2012-05-28 16:26 ` Marco Pessotto
2012-05-28 17:00 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Marco Pessotto @ 2012-05-28 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Marco Pessotto <melmothx@gmail.com> writes:
> Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
>
>> On 25-5-2012 09:45, luigi scarso wrote:
>>
>>> enabletrackers[fonts.missing]
>>> \mainlanguage[hr]
>>> \starttext ȃ\stoptext
>>
>> indeed better
After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the
fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit?
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* Re: Missing "missing character" warning
2012-05-28 16:26 ` Marco Pessotto
@ 2012-05-28 17:00 ` Hans Hagen
2012-05-28 17:11 ` Marco Pessotto
2012-05-28 18:51 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-28 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Marco Pessotto
On 28-5-2012 18:26, Marco Pessotto wrote:
> After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the
> fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit?
indeed but you can enable it in your local cont-sys.tex file or in your
texmfcnf.lua additions
Hans
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2012-05-28 17:00 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Marco Pessotto @ 2012-05-28 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
> On 28-5-2012 18:26, Marco Pessotto wrote:
>
>> After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the
>> fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit?
>
> indeed but you can enable it in your local cont-sys.tex file or in
> your texmfcnf.lua additions
I see, thanks!
Best wishes
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* Re: Missing "missing character" warning
2012-05-28 17:00 ` Hans Hagen
2012-05-28 17:11 ` Marco Pessotto
@ 2012-05-28 18:51 ` Mojca Miklavec
2012-05-28 19:15 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2012-05-28 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Taco Hoekwater
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 28-5-2012 18:26, Marco Pessotto wrote:
>
>> After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the
>> fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit?
>
> indeed
Still, given the large amount of data that gets printed during a
compilation (it is basically impossible to figure out if something
goes wrong without carefully looking at the log), I would also support
the idea to print missing characters by default.
I'm also contemplating a different idea (after TL): wouldn't it be
nice if ConTeXt (luatex) would print warnings (missing image, missing
module, missing character, ...) in colour (if that's supported), to
make it clearly stand out from the rest?
clang and CMake use that regularly for example.
Mojca
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* Re: Missing "missing character" warning
2012-05-28 18:51 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2012-05-28 19:15 ` Hans Hagen
2012-05-28 19:20 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-28 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Taco Hoekwater, Mojca Miklavec
On 28-5-2012 20:51, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 28-5-2012 18:26, Marco Pessotto wrote:
>>
>>> After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the
>>> fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit?
>>
>> indeed
>
> Still, given the large amount of data that gets printed during a
> compilation (it is basically impossible to figure out if something
> goes wrong without carefully looking at the log), I would also support
> the idea to print missing characters by default.
>
> I'm also contemplating a different idea (after TL): wouldn't it be
> nice if ConTeXt (luatex) would print warnings (missing image, missing
> module, missing character, ...) in colour (if that's supported), to
> make it clearly stand out from the rest?
>
> clang and CMake use that regularly for example.
>
> Mojca
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2012-05-28 18:51 ` Mojca Miklavec
2012-05-28 19:15 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-05-28 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Taco Hoekwater, Mojca Miklavec
On 28-5-2012 20:51, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 28-5-2012 18:26, Marco Pessotto wrote:
>>
>>> After a lot of mumbling by myself... Is there a reason not to have the
>>> fonts.missing tracker enabled by default? Performance hit?
>>
>> indeed
>
> Still, given the large amount of data that gets printed during a
> compilation (it is basically impossible to figure out if something
> goes wrong without carefully looking at the log), I would also support
> the idea to print missing characters by default.
one can configure that locally ... much functionality only kicks in when
really used (thereby limiting the overhead) and in that case messages
also get suppressed till they make sense
> I'm also contemplating a different idea (after TL): wouldn't it be
> nice if ConTeXt (luatex) would print warnings (missing image, missing
> module, missing character, ...) in colour (if that's supported), to
> make it clearly stand out from the rest?
i once played with it (1) but such a thing will only work on a console
that supports ansi escape sequences (and console output of tex is
already rather slow and flushing being character based it might give
problems)
Hans
(1) in pdftex times ... it failed due to thsu ^^ escaping that tex applies
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* Re: Missing "missing character" warning
2012-05-25 7:40 ` Hans Hagen
2012-05-25 7:45 ` luigi scarso
@ 2012-05-25 7:48 ` Marco Pessotto
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From: Marco Pessotto @ 2012-05-25 7:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
> You can add this:
>
> \checkcharactersinfont
>
> and get missing characters reported to the terminal. Unfortunately I
> forgot () when adapting this command to the command namespace ...
>
> \unexpanded\def\checkcharactersinfont
> {\ctxcommand{checkcharactersinfont()}}
>
> (fixed in next beta)
And indeed this works.
Thanks!
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