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I meant only TeX commands not plan TeX macros. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:20=E2=80=AFPM Wolfgang Schuster < wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > Shiv Shankar Dayal schrieb am 24.01.2024 um 16:37: > > For example: \kern, \parindent and so on. Rephrasing the question, can > > LuaMetaTeX/ConTeXt compile > > plain TeX files. If yes, how can I do that? > > You mix up two different things here. > > 1. Plain TeX is a collection of TeX macros like ConTeXt or LaTeX. > > 2. LuaMetaTeX is a program like pdfTeX or LuaTeX which provides commands > which are used by above mentioned collections to create macros. > > Even though ConTeXt provides some commands which available in plain TeX > not all of the are supported which means you can't process plain TeX > documents. > > On the other hand commands which are provided by the engine like > \parindent can be used in a ConTeXt document but higher level mechanism > like \setupindenting are the better choice. > > Wolfgang > > --=20 Respect, Shiv Shankar Dayal --000000000000734a68060fb30ce3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for correcting me, Wolfgang. I meant only TeX comma= nds not plan TeX macros.

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:20=E2=80=AFPM Wolfg= ang Schuster <wolfg= ang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Shiv Shankar Dayal schrieb am 24.01.2024 um 16:= 37:
> For example: \kern, \parindent and so on. Rephrasing the question, can=
> LuaMetaTeX/ConTeXt compile
> plain TeX files. If yes, how can I do that?

You mix up two different things here.

1. Plain TeX is a collection of TeX macros like ConTeXt or LaTeX.

2. LuaMetaTeX is a program like pdfTeX or LuaTeX which provides commands which are used by above mentioned collections to create macros.

Even though ConTeXt provides some commands which available in plain TeX not all of the are supported which means you can't process plain TeX documents.

On the other hand commands which are provided by the engine like
\parindent can be used in a ConTeXt document but higher level mechanism like \setupindenting are the better choice.

Wolfgang



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