From: Florent Michel <florent.m42@gmail.com>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: [NTG-context] Re: images with alt text
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 15:40:09 +0000 [thread overview]
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Hi,
It seems that the accessibility page has moved here:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Input_and_compilation/Accessibility .
Maybe the last example is suitable?
(It seems to correctly embed the alt text in the pdf; this can be checked
by using the `--nocompression` flag and opening the resulting pdf with a
text editor. Not sure how to have the alt text in the exported html,
though; I'm sure others will be able to advise on that better than I could.)
Best,
Florent
Le mar. 4 févr. 2025 à 14:29, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de> a
écrit :
> Hi,
>
> today my publishers ask for an example of how ConTeXt deals with
> accessibility.
>
> I send them a PDF with
>
> \setupbackend[export=yes]
> \setupstructure[state=start,method=auto]
>
> What they needed was like
> <img src="example.jpg" alt="Example text">
>
> What is the equivalent for this with ConTeXt?
> Contextgarden ( https://contextgarden.net/Accessibility) is empty...
>
> Yours, Steffen
>
>
>
> > Am 23.09.2024 um 17:09 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl>:
> >
> > On 9/23/2024 8:02 AM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
> >> On 9/22/24 21:58, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> >>> On 9/22/2024 2:43 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It would be great to have synonyms added the /E information by
> default.
> >>>> I think this may be a requirement for text-to-speech conversions.
> >>>
> >>> even more crap .. let's wait till abbreviations are completely
> forbiddeb
> >>> (and also units and such )
> >> From what I see, /E may be helpful (similar to /ActualText).
> >
> > Imo it's useless:
> >
> > (1) normally when a new abbreviation is intriduced one has the expanded
> meaning after it
> > (2) after that it is suposed to be known
> > (3) if one jumps into a document in the middle one cannot expect it to
> be repeated every time
> > (4) if that *is* expoected there is no need to use abbreviations at all
> > (5) so, why should a 'read out' document have all abbreviations with an
> expanded meaning and a typeset text not
> >
> >> For me, the real problem with accessibility (and penalties for
> >> non-accessible documents) is that it will force all documents to be
> >> machine-readable (so we have to feed AI with all our public documents,
> >> whether we like it or not).
> >
> > i assume that such a machine learning or pattern recognotion app can
> quite well figure out that it's an abbreviation
> >
> >> I mean, no such as "\enabledirectives[backend.pdf.nounicode=❌]" allowed.
> >
> > well, everything is allowed ... after all why do we typeset and
> visualize otherwise ... it depends on the audience
> >
> > one can always generate multiple versions, one with two times the number
> of pages and all expanded
> >
> > Hans
> >
> >
> >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-04 15:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-21 17:16 [NTG-context] " Steffen Wolfrum
2024-09-22 11:15 ` [NTG-context] " Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2024-09-22 12:43 ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
2024-09-22 19:58 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2024-09-23 6:02 ` Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
2024-09-23 15:09 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2025-02-04 14:03 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-04 15:40 ` Florent Michel [this message]
2025-02-05 11:27 ` luigi scarso
2025-02-05 12:11 ` Hans Hagen
2025-02-05 14:44 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-05 16:35 ` Hans Hagen
2025-02-05 17:49 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-05 18:13 ` Keith McKay
2025-02-05 20:51 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2025-02-05 21:53 ` Keith McKay
2025-02-05 18:18 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2025-02-05 19:44 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-06 11:22 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-06 11:56 ` Florent Michel
2025-02-06 12:06 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-06 13:17 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2025-02-06 13:30 ` Florent Michel
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