Missing modules crossref and pararef

Missing modules crossref and pararef

[Martin Hasoň]

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Hi all,

I want to use pararef
<https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Paragraph_Referencing> and
crossref <http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Cross_Referencing> modules, but
they are not present in the ConTeXt installation. These modules also
missing in output of install command sh ./first-setup.sh --modules=all

Best regards
Martin Hasoň

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Re: Missing modules crossref and pararef

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2019-04-08 um 12:45 schrieb Martin Hasoň <martin.hason@gmail.com>:

> Hi all,
> 
> I want to use pararef and  crossref modules, but they are not present in the ConTeXt installation. These modules also missing in output of install command sh ./first-setup.sh --modules=all

Interesting, I never heard of these modules. But they were for MkII anyway and long gone; their wiki pages are from 2012, and I don’t know the user Zenlima.

\startParagraph is dangerously close to (MkIV core) \startparagraph ...

What do you want to achieve? It’s probably possible without those modules.

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Re: Missing modules crossref and pararef

[Zenlima]

Hi,

I am the great help of the mailing list that time are the developer of that two modules. The two modules are used on a daily base with MKIV without any issues. So why do you want to delete them?

I see the old module download got deleted.. I will provide them somehow later today and get back about this.

>\startParagraph is dangerously close to (MkIV core) \startparagraph ...

That was done by purpose that time - and why is it dangerous for you?


>Interesting, I never heard of these modules. But they were for MkII anyway and long gone; their wiki pages are from 2012, and I don’t know the user Zenlima.
>What do you want to achieve? It’s probably possible without those modules.

In general: If you dont know something does not mean just delete it. My suggestion is to contact the developer of that modules first and ask for changes or updates. I am pretty sure that if you provided own work to the OSS world you are proud of it and does not want it be deleted respectlessly.

Ok that said: of course I like to update and better the modules - that is just normal software evolution. So please tell me, what part of that modules are mkii leftovers. 

Thanks
H.
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Re: Missing modules crossref and pararef

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2019-04-08 um 19:15 schrieb Zenlima <post@zenlima.eu>:

>> Interesting, I never heard of these modules. But they were for MkII anyway and long gone; their wiki pages are from 2012, and I don’t know the user Zenlima.
>> What do you want to achieve? It’s probably possible without those modules.
> 
> In general: If you dont know something does not mean just delete it. My suggestion is to contact the developer of that modules first and ask for changes or updates. I am pretty sure that if you provided own work to the OSS world you are proud of it and does not want it be deleted respectlessly.

I’m sorry, I reacted on the fact that the link was dead (as are all wiki links to modules, unfortunately) and that the pages were from 2012, while the latest versions of your modules seem to be from 2016, which is fine of course. I didn’t check if anything works.

As lonely wiki pages your module documentation gets overlooked, you might have linked them in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/References.

I’m documenting all modules at the moment that come installed with --modules=all, so I assumed I would know all available modules.


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Re: Missing modules crossref and pararef

[Zenlima]

Hi Hraban,

>As lonely wiki pages your module documentation gets overlooked, you might have linked them in https://wiki.contextgarden.net/References.

Thanks for the suggestion... done it.

And yes, I never was into including my modules into the context-minimal distribution, but this incident made me realize that I should have. So I like to add them now. But that will be a seperate post.

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Haeske


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Re: Missing modules crossref and pararef

[Zenlima]

(Sorry,.. missed an important AND and screwed up the meaning of the sentace :D )

Hi,

I am AND the great help of the mailing list that time are the developer of that two modules. The two modules are used on a daily base with MKIV without any issues. So why do you want to delete them?

I see the old module download got deleted.. I will provide them somehow later today and get back about this.

>\startParagraph is dangerously close to (MkIV core) \startparagraph ...

That was done by purpose that time - and why is it dangerous for you?


>Interesting, I never heard of these modules. But they were for MkII anyway and long gone; their wiki pages are from 2012, and I don’t know the user Zenlima.
>What do you want to achieve? It’s probably possible without those modules.

In general: If you dont know something does not mean just delete it. My suggestion is to contact the developer of that modules first and ask for changes or updates. I am pretty sure that if you provided own work to the OSS world you are proud of it and does not want it be deleted respectlessly.

Ok that said: of course I like to update and better the modules - that is just normal software evolution. So please tell me, what part of that modules are mkii leftovers. 

Thanks
H.
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