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With LaTeX you can use the `atbegshi`-package that gives you a command ` \AtBeginShipoutNext`: ``` \footnotemark \clearpage \AtBeginShipoutNext{\footnotetext{Text.}} ``` This only works for individual footnotes, but it's already quite useful. Is there something similar for ConTeXt? I can think of at least three situations: 1. Put footnote text to the next page for a single footnote. 2. Allow footnote text on next page for all footnotes. 3. Allow footnote text on next page of a double page spread for all footnotes. Best, Denis Am Mo., 22. Juli 2019 um 08:43 Uhr schrieb Huseyin =C3=96zoguz < h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>: > Hello, > > ConText seems to try to place the footnote on the same page as the > footenotereference. See this example: > > \showgrid > \starttext > \input tufte > \input tufte \footnote{Footnote 1} > \input tufte > \input tufte \dorecurse{35}{Blub or what }\footnote{Footnote 2} \input > tufte > \stoptext > > But that results into one (or two?) fewer line on the first page. > > Is there a possibility to implement the following rule? -> NEVER move > lines onto the next page to achieve footnote and reference beging on the > same page. If necessary set the footnote on the next page, after the > reference. > > Or would you suggest a better solution? I have a book with grid=3Dyes, so > the default-setting is not suitable. > > Thanks > Huseyin > > > -- > Huseyin =C3=96zoguz > > E-Mail: h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de > > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > --000000000000e1cb04058e45e14e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
llI don't know a solution for this, b= ut would be very interested.
With LaTeX you can use the `atbegshi`-pack= age that gives you a command ` \AtBeginShipoutNext`:

```
\footnotemark
<= div>\clearpage
\AtBeginShipoutNext{\footnotetext{Text.}}
```

This only works for individual footnotes, bu= t it's already quite useful.
Is there something similar for C= onTeXt?
I can think of at least three situations:

<= /div>
1. Put footnote text to the next page for a single footnote.
2. Allow footnote text on next page for all footnotes.
3. A= llow footnote text on next page of a double page spread=C2=A0=C2=A0for all = footnotes.

Best,
Denis





=
Am Mo.= , 22. Juli 2019 um 08:43=C2=A0Uhr schrieb Huseyin =C3=96zoguz <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>:
Hello,

ConText seems to try to place the footnote on the same page as the
footenotereference. See this example:

\showgrid
\starttext
\input tufte
\input tufte \footnote{Footnote 1}
\input tufte
\input tufte \dorecurse{35}{Blub or what }\footnote{Footnote 2} \input tuft= e
\stoptext

But that results into one (or two?) fewer line on the first page.

Is there a possibility to implement the following rule? -> NEVER move lines onto the next page to achieve footnote and reference beging on the same page. If necessary set the footnote on the next page, after the
reference.

Or would you suggest a better solution? I have a book with grid=3Dyes, so <= br> the default-setting is not suitable.

Thanks
Huseyin


--
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E-Mail: h.oezoguz@= mmnetz.de

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